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@Keb wrote:

I suspect that Regina’s statement that Rumple always chooses darkness may be coming into play with Lacey’s appreciation for his darkness. He’s got the easy choice: Darkness AND Lacey, or light and the hard road of fighting to get Belle back. And that’s a tricky choice–we saw how quickly he went for Cora *shudder* when she appreciated his dark side.

This! What a deliciously conflicting situation he’ll be in. Can’t wait to see Robert rock this stuff.

Regarding the apparent funeral scene, this pretty much confirms for me the suspicion that it’s a dead Granny they find on the rocks.

Where are GOAT holding Regina? It looks underground-ish, and the colouring looks like it could be under the hospital? Guess that would answer whether or not Greg’s dad is down there. But if he is, and they find him, then what motivation does Greg have left for continuing to work with Tamara? Maybe they’re not all under the hospital after all. Or maybe they are, but Kurt isn’t down there after all.

Hook will no doubt play along with GOAT long enough to see how he can use them for his own benefit. Wonder if he does actually directly help capture Regina, or if he lets them do the dirty work and then the scene where he’s looming over her, he’s gone to set her free? I could see him letting GOAT shock her as a trial run, so he can see what it would do to Rumple. I’d love to see Regina without her powers. She probably needs something drastic like that to happen if she’s ever gonna truly change.

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I love that Flook is still in this contest! 😛 Was torn over who got my second vote, but Flook was a no brainer.

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@WickedRegal wrote:

So, basically, what you’re all is saying that, Regina has no holds to Henry. Wrong, because even Gold had documents for Ashley’s baby, and therefore, I’m pretty sure he had Regina sign LEGAL forms to obtain Henry, and despite the circumstances, under law of their contract, Henry is Regina’s son!
FYI, the curse is broken, so Regina could very well call authorities to arrest Snow’s Family, because they are seemingly holding Henry hostage,

To which authorities would she go? If Rumple did have her sign any sort of legal form, (which I’m not convinced of), it wouldn’t be legit in the real world. Any such forms would have been filed through the SB judicial system, and as far as the rest of the world is concerned, SB doesn’t exist, so no legal matter dealt with in the SB system would be binding in the outside world. The names on the forms would have been of people who didn’t actually exist as far as the outside world is concerned, so the forms would be invalid. And in SB, the Charmings are the authorities themselves, so Regina can hardly tell them to arrest themselves.

and please note people on moment Regina said directly Henry was crazy, she went about the situation, another parent would if their children had “imaginary friends.” Get them some therapy, it was Henry’s viewpoints that she was making him out to be crazy which she wasn’t,

Except that Regina wasn’t a real world parent with a kid who had imaginary friends. She knew she was the EQ and her kid was onto the fact that she’d cursed the whole town and he wanted to expose her and bring everyone’s memories back, so she had to try and convince him, and everyone else, that he was nuts.

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@RumplesGirl wrote:

I think this is an interesting thought but it would mean that the Rumple/Hook drama would be on hold and with Hook and his story becoming more prominent in S3 (we assume), I think a major part of that is how Rumple and Hook will continue to interact.

The fact that Rumple was on Hook’s ship at all suggests to me that they’ve called a truce of some sort by season’s end. Perhaps Nealfire demands they each get over themselves, if not for their own sakes, then for his, if he ends up stuck in the middle.

@PriceofMagic wrote:

A thought occured to me. We know Greg and Tamara kidnap Henry, what if Neal is led to believe that Greg kidnapped Tamara as well? Neal isn’t supposed to find out Tamara’s true colours for a good long while yet. Tamara kidnapping Henry would be a bit obvious. What if Tamara sets it up so it looks like she’s been kidnapped along with Henry?

I could see Tamara doing that. Also agree with your other post that Greg will be redeemable because he’ll eventually figure out Tamara’s game, and how he’s as much her pawn as Henry is. I hope Greg eventually plays a role in Henry being reunited with his family, and his reward for that will be being reunited with his own father. Given what happened to him as a kid, I’d be disappointed in him if he turns out to be an active schemer in the kidnapping plot. Hopefully it will be a case of him being trapped into being an accomplice.

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Thanks for getting the clip online, LaurieAnne!

Loved Rumple’s crack about the overpriced lasagne. He knows that stuff is frozen instead of homemade. 😛

So Belle really was a blank slate for all those years, huh? And it’s only now that Regina’s bestowing on her a false identity, just to screw with Rumple.

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But I’m coming up with a more complex theory on what The Curse personalities were. They weren’t completely opposite–I think it enhanced the weaknesses of each character rather than changing them completely. After all, what’s Belle do in FTL after Rumple kicks her out? She goes and hangs out at the local tavern, drinking and reading (and giving Dreamy advice).

Nice catch that Belle was a bit of a barfly too.

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@RumplesGirl wrote:

I’m not sure where all this Belle hysteria is coming from but this keeps coming up. If people are nervous because there haven’t been pics of her on the actual BOAT, well there haven’t been pics of a lot of things and maybe Belle only has minor scenes on the Jolly Roger since, naturally, the focus would be on the Charmings and Hook. I really don’t think we need to worry about Belle. Chances are she’s getting her memories back in 19 or before the end of the season and Adam and Eddy wouldn’t be dumb enough to split Rumbelle up AGAIN so soon after she got her memories back.

I agree that they won’t split Rumbelle up again at this point in the storyline. If they want to keep him progressing and developing, he needs her influence. Belle will be sticking around. I’m still reserving judgement about whether or not Rumbelle leave on the boat with everyone else though. That’s what intrigued me about the alleged spoiler that Belle may not leave on the boat. If that happens to be true, and she doesn’t go, then Rumple won’t go either, because he wouldn’t leave her. A few people have mentioned over the last couple of pages that Belle hasn’t been tied in with other characters’ storylines much. If Rumbelle end up in FTL searching for Nealfire, Belle would likely meet up with Mulan again, which would be a nice little continuation of a relationship Belle has outside of Rumple.

@RumbelleDearie wrote:

Where does it say they don’t want Belle coming? The post is just about Henry and Greg and Tamara. Am I missing something on there? There isn’t a mention of Belle or who’s leaving SB…

The person who posted the spoilers has deleted them, but there was still a reply from someone saying, “I don’t understand why they don’t want to let Belle come along, too.” That implies that the person who had posted the spoilers, (who has apparently had reliable information in the past), said that Belle wasn’t leaving on the boat.

@Pan14 wrote:

How are Tamara and Greg going to use the Magic Bean if they get hold of one. Emma and MM needed the compass to navigate between the different worlds when they left EF. Do they still have the compass? is it accounted for?

If Tamara and Greg know how to use the bean and navigate between worlds, I’m thinking Tamara for sure has connections to another land, possibly being a fairy tale (or other) character we are familiar with. (It might be time to start thinking beyond fairy tale, and incorporate other classic characters. like Dr. Whale being Dr. Frankenstein.)

However, if Tamara and Greg use the bean, without knowing how, and get lost in a world they don’t intend, i’ll buy her story of being human – or being from our world.

I think the compass was only needed that time because it was a different type of portal, which didn’t involve a bean. Hook has used a bean twice without needing the compass, and Bae didn’t have a compass either. I’m gonna guess that Tamara overhears a conversation about the beans, perhaps she even discusses it with Nealfire, where she’s playing the role of supportive fiance who wants to know what happened to him, but she’s actually digging for information on how the beans work from someone who has used one. Then she decides to steal one.

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@DoesHeLoveYou wrote:

I’m afraid that Belle will be left behind while everyone else goes to Neverland. Over at ONTD a member was giving out spoilers about the finale with private messages for a time in the comment section and I missed it. 😥 She doesn’t give out spoilers very often but when she did in the past they were always true. She later deleted all her posts and comments about her spoilers and now they’re gone. But I think she might have overlooked this one by another user: http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/76688681.html?thread=13616351529#t13616351529 which makes it sound like all main cast members are leaving and just Belle will stay in Storybrooke. 😥 Really hope this was just speculation from this user and not a reaction to the actual spoilers given out.

I dunno why they’d specifically say they don’t want Belle going, (unless perhaps she doesn’t want to go on Hook’s ship, and frankly, given that he almost killed both her and Rumple, could you blame her?), but I’ll bet if she can’t go, Rumple won’t leave her alone.

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@Demileto wrote:

So much for killing the mute maid,

Speaking of the mute maid, I had something randomly pop into my head the other day. I wonder if she could have been foreshadowing of Bae having experience communicating with someone who couldn’t speak, an experience we’ll see him draw on when he runs into Ariel in NL.

Anything that makes it more likely that Ariel comes into the mix is a good theory to me 🙂

The whole mute maid thing just seemed so random. They didn’t have to make her a mute for Rumple to think she should be dead. But they went ahead and gave her a specific disability that is unique to an iconic fairytale character. A character who could potentially be in a land that we now know Bae was in. I’m suspicious.

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Agreed. Those of us who are spoilerwhores read into everything. But looking at it simply, it’s two of the good guys trying to run to safety, with the 3 big villains of the show apparently after them, which is to be expected. The wildcard is that dragon, representing an even bigger bad, chasing after them all.

Sort of an odd title they gave it. Fighting for SB…by running away from it?

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@HappyEndings wrote:

Sorry, I don’t see what you are seeing?

If you read the caption the person put on the screencap when they tweeted it, you will see they say “check this screen cap out. Mouse is over #RumBelle, but shows Dean/Cast instead. Fraud?” And if you look at the pic itself, you see that the link that has popped up is for Destiel, even though the person is voting for Rumbelle. Dodgy. 😕

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Thanks for the youtube link, slurpeez.

I think the flitting wings at the end are meant to be the same butterfly seen at the start, which I’m gonna guess is meant to resemble Emma, because the butterfly flies away from the castle and out of FTL (ie: baby Emma), and then at the end we see Emma coming back to the same castle, where her parents are.

The dragon is intriguing. I’m inclined to agree that it symbolises Tamara in some way, given that we’ve seen her zap the Dragon, which could have potentially been her stealing his power.

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