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Curious that Greg is playing a role in separating a kid from his family, given that’s what was done to him when he was that age. I could see if he just wanted to hold Henry hostage to use him as a bargaining chip with Regina to get info on his father, but actually taking him to another world to separate him from his parents? Guess that bit was probably Tamara’s idea.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
Yes, I’m still leaning toward Granny dying because she overheard Tamara and Greg but why did she go to NL with the cast? That scene at the rocks in the park, where Emma and Henry hug, seems to me like it has to come after Tamara and Greg kidnap Henry and take him to NL. So why does Granny to with the Charmingstiltskins? We didn’t see pics of her on the Jolly Roger.
Wasn’t the scene at the rocks part of the same shoot that started with the Charmings driving up in the truck and getting out to go over to Rumple? If so, the part on the rocks is still in SB.
@craxyfox wrote:
Move over CaptainFire, there’s a new brotp in town, Davey-Jones!
I’d been thinking Hooking, but DaveyJones is just too perfect and adorable! Love that pic.
[adrotate group="5"]@LisaS wrote:
@Phee wrote:
I’d have to see a screencap of the back of either Phillip’s or Regina’s hand before being totally convinced that Nealfire has been marked too. The only medallion we know of is in Aurora’s possession, and how would Nealfire end up getting marked with that?
I did these 2 screencaps from 2×01 Broken the first one is Regina’s hand that was marked by Rumple’s medallion the second one is Prince Phllip’s hand that was marked by the medallion that he cut off of the wraith.
What I want to go back and check is the back of their hands, (not their palms), to see if they used the same makeup effect through their fingers. If they did, then it’ll be pretty obvious it’s the same thing. But just looking at the back of Neal’s hand alone isn’t conclusive enough IMO.
I’d have to see a screencap of the back of either Phillip’s or Regina’s hand before being totally convinced that Nealfire has been marked too. The only medallion we know of is in Aurora’s possession, and how would Nealfire end up getting marked with that?
I like the idea of Tamara having been Marian and Robin’s child, and her grandmother brought her to our world. As for how they could get here, maybe Rumple was close to finding a way and that’s some of the magic they steal from him? So of course, he’d be after their whole family, and that’s why Tamara’s grandmother uses the magic so they can escape. Perhaps?
@RumplesGirl wrote:
Also, it was speculated some time ago, I think by Phee, that the ocean could lead to many different lands. So the Merkindgom could be spread out over many lands accessible through swimming.
Yeah, given that Hook travelled through the ocean to get from FTL to NL, I wondered if perhaps the undersea realm might exist sort of like a bridge connecting the two worlds, so merfolk could access lands on both sides. Perhaps.
There’s a school of thought out there that Cora could have been Ursula. Not my theory, haven’t decided if I buy into it or not, just throwing it into the mix.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
I kinda just wanna know why Henry is on a swing at all.
Maybe from the vantage point of that rope swing, he looks down and sees Granny lying amongst the rocks?
@Mike wrote:
Why watch a show if it makes you frustrated and angry? It’s best just to change the channel.
This. In any fandom, not just this show, I’m involved because the subject of the fandom is something I love and enjoy. If people wanna waste their time getting their rocks off by hating and tearing something apart, then it’s their loss. Fandom is supposed to bring you joy and be a rewarding experience. If it makes you raging mad, find another freaking thing to be a fan of instead and leave the rest of us alone to appreciate it.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
I think Henry could become a potential Peter Pan but he wasn’t one to begin with. I think there are many “Pan’s”–Nealfire being one of them.
I could buy it if there’s more than one Pan, (like the god Pan had multiples), like it’s a title or position one can hold, and Henry is a future one, and Bae was one in the past.
@TimeSpacer wrote:
That’s what I thought back in Season One, but we now know the same thing is true for all of the characters with Fairy Tale identities. We saw in “Broken” that time was frozen in the Enchanted Forest for the same 28 years that it was frozen in Storybrooke. So unlike the real world in which there is no such thing as “absolute time” (see side note below if you are curious), Storybrooke and the Enchanted Forest measure the same time intervals.
This doesn’t confirm to me that the time runs parallel. It just says that a chunk of time that lasted the same amount of time was frozen in both worlds. I put that down to the two lands being tied together because they’re on opposite ends of the curse, but don’t think it indicates that FTL and SB exist side by side on the timeline. I still think they all jumped forward a couple 100 years or so when they came here.
I’m still not entirely convinced that the scene with Nealfire, Aurora, Mulan and Phillip is in NL. Even if we assume that NL is where the souls sucked by the Wraith goes, (which is a plausible theory), I would imagine that Phillip’s soul is drawn back from there, and it enters back into his body, which is in FTL. Why then would the three of them have any reason to seek out NL and physically go there? Also, given the dramas they went through at the start of the season trying to find a way to transport out of FTL, it’s unlikely that these three would just happen to find another way to do it. For now, I’m sticking with the idea that Nealfire just goes to FTL and runs into them there.
The YVRShoots page mentioning that the Lost Boys & Bae were filming with Hook on the ship has made my day! How Hook related to those kids is something I’ve been dying to see!
@TimeSpacer wrote:
I think part of the reason I didn’t initially consider Henry as a candidate for Peter Pan is that back in Season One, I was assuming that all the Fairy Tale Land stories took place in a different universe and a much earlier time, so that the stories somehow made their way to our world long after they had happened. Hence, Henry couldn’t be Peter Pan since he was born in our world eleven years ago and Peter Pan was written in 1904. But now we have seen that time and space are not really barriers between our world and the many fictional worlds. We’ve seen that the time at which Regina enacted The Dark Curse in the Enchanted Forest was synchronized with time in our world so most of the events in the flashbacks took place just a few decades ago, while many of the stories were first written in our world centuries ago (the original story of Cinderella goes back to an origin some 2500 years ago.) So it is perfectly consistent with what we have already seen that Henry might become Peter Pan in the future.
I still don’t see how the timing would work, because Henry was very definitely born in our word 11 years ago, roughly 100 years after our world heard the story of Peter Pan. If he is still yet to become Pan, we never should have heard of Pan before, because he doesn’t exist yet.
