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@slurpeez108 wrote:
Also, I doubt that Bae is Cora’s child, just because Bae lived centuries before Cora was born. Even if Rumple granted Cora an extra long life, it wouldn’t explain a key point. Rumplestiltskin made the deal with the miller’s daughter after he became the dark one. Bae was born before when Rumple was still just a regular man.
For the timeline to work, it’d have to be something like:
Rumple and Cora are married
Cora has Bae
Cora leaves Bae and Rumple
Rumple becomes the Dark One
Cora makes a deal with Rumple to gain magic & immortalityI could see it working, especially if it turns out that Cora got some of her powers from Rumple. That thing where she raised her hand and had the magic emitting from it was just like the power we saw Zoso use, so it’s safe to say that Rumple inherited that power, but I don’t think we’ve ever seen him use it. This could all be explained if Cora had stolen that particular power from Rumple, so perhaps they did have a previous association, such as being married, (Cora’s desire for power and status would certainly explain why she up and left someone who she deemed to be a coward).
Maybe she came back for her son, but by then, Rumple had lost him, however that ends up happening. So Cora wanted to punish Rumple for losing her son, and found a way to steal some of his powers, maybe she made some deals with him and outwitted him, and from there on learned more of her own magic.
By the same token, Regina has similar powers to those of her mother. The trick that Cora pulled with the straps wrapping up Regina is the same thing that Regina later does to restrain Maleficent. They both take out people’s hearts. They both close doors without having to use the handle. So perhaps there was a bit of history repeating and Regina stole her initial powers from Cora the way Cora had stolen her initial powers from Rumple? And perhaps it was Rumple who gave Regina the knowhow to get started. If Rumple wanted revenge on Cora for having stolen his powers, he’d certainly help out her daughter who had a motive to bring her mother down.
@snowfan wrote:
Regina seems like the unfavored second born who’s mother gave all her love to the older sibling. In this case Cora no longer has her first-born and resents Regina even more for that.
It’s a twisted kind of affection that Cora has for Regina, but I don’t necessarily see her as being unfavoured. Yes, Cora is horrible to her, treats her terribly, no doubt about that. But then Cora also wants the best for her, doesn’t want her to make the same mistakes she did, doesn’t want her to not realise her full potential, so arranges for her to marry a king. She’s setting Regina on the road to (what she considers to be) success, it’s just too bad that she doesn’t care that it’s not what Regina wants. Mother knows what’s best for her baby girl and no one can question it, (not even the baby daddy).
[adrotate group="5"]@celesstarr wrote:
Then I think she let her emotions about MM get in the way and then she became a pawn in his plan.
Which is exactly how he entrapped her and got her to cast the curse back in FTL too.
As they say: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.@hjbau wrote:
And then we see August with the article about Emma being found on the side of the road. I am definitely leaning towards August being that kid and most likely this being where he found Emma.
I so want to know what they are saying in this scene.
LOVE that idea!! Emma’s expression certainly suggests that he’s telling her something serious. Also, if this is in fact the place where he found her, I think they could very easily explain away the “local boy” bit in the newspaper article. It appears to be a lobster shack, just a local take away food place. August could have easily come running up with the baby, said he found her “just over there, by the roadside,” and then in the commotion that followed he could have slipped away before the cops even got there to question him. Giving him the label “local boy” in the article would be perfectly reasonable in a situation like that.
Can’t wait to see Regina smash the mirror when she doesn’t get anywhere with David. 😛
@sjm wrote:
@KalliopeKisees wrote:
@hjbau wrote:
I agree. I hope that his character ends up being interesting in the end. I think that is one of the reasons i don’t like him being Pinocchio. That doesn’t seem all that interesting. And it doesn’t have anything to do with the curse or information about the curse or anything like that.
I couldn’t agree more
me too!
How could him being Pinocchio have nothing to do with the curse if there was a special plan made for him to escape the curse so that 28 years later he could come and guide Emma with information she needs to break the curse?
@AngieBelle wrote:
Gee…I love the idea of him being Pinocchio…
It gives Emma an ally- another child from fairytale world who grew up in our world, only he was old enough to remember what happened. Emma needs another adult whom she trusts to be a believer in order to believe herself.
Agreed! Emma’s never going to give in and believe if the only people who she has telling her to are a kid with an overactive imagination and some violent loon who thinks he’s the Mad Hatter. If they sent Pinocchio with Emma so that one day there’d be a man who would know about FTL, would have an unbreakable emotional tie to the place and its people to motivate him, and would be in a position to guide the saviour to break the curse, that would have been some smart planning. Even if Emma can’t take Henry or Jefferson seriously, she’s still got August there, calmly dropping breadcrumbs for her and quietly watching as she picks them up. The look of pride he had when she made progress in the last ep was so sweet. He has an emotional connection to her. I find it completely believable that that connection would come from him having known her since she was a baby and now he’s watching her fullfill her destiny, which is something he’s been waiting for since the day he met her, 28 years ago.
Personally, I think it’s very heartwarming if August and Emma were the two children sent away from FTL into our big, bad, strange new world all those years ago, entrusted with this destiny, and now they’ve found each other again and are working together to save all their family and friends.
@EnchantedOne wrote:
Again I can’t get over his liscense plate being from Kansas…and the year 1984 on it is when the curse was innacted
As was discussed on the previous page, the song Carry On Wayward Son, which is one of the best known songs from the band Kansas, was on their 1984 best of album. I looked up the album info and it’s actually the first track on the album. I know I’m looking at everything through Pinocchio coloured glasses right now, but that song instantly screamed Pinocchio to me. He could quite literally (and we know that August likes finding his answers in a literary form) be the embodiment of the wayward son.
@sjm wrote:
Maybe you are hearing sooner because you’re an Aussie.
Yes, I get all the good stuff early coz we live in the future down here in Oz, don’t you know. LOL 😉
PS. No worries. If I wasn’t such a slacker and had uploaded my avatar, you wouldn’t have had to guess.
Didn’t figure it was really giving anything away. Anyone who hasn’t read spoilers wouldn’t have any idea where I got the idea and it’s not like it’s a copy of something we’ve been explicitly told. 😕 Apologies if anyone thought it was spoilery. Wasn’t my intention.
I’ll go put spoiler tags on it in case. Anyone who’s wary, don’t study my little list on page one too closely.
You should delete that top part of the message where it’s not in spoiler tags (coz that’s SUPER spoilery)! Eeeeeek!
