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KeymasterThat’s either hopeful or really ominous
How to sum up OUAT in 6 words or less….
Come to think of it, Merlin did warn KidEmma! not to remove the sword from the stone or else “bad things would happen” … I’m still wondering what the consequence of not only removing it but reuniting the blade with its other half will be.
I don’t know either because until we meet Merlin a bit more properly, it’s hard to know what “bad” things are and whether or not the Wizard is telling the truth. I do think that Arthur is going to play a larger role in why Merlin is currently soaking up the sun. (though, that begs the question of why we need Nimue…)
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterIt doesn’t look to me like Hook is the new hero. Rather, he looks to be the new dark one who is fighting Hero!Rumple.
That’s not how I’m reading the scene but who knows. His name is on the Sword (and Emma’s on the Dagger) meaning Emma is still the Dark One. You can still see her name in one of those above shots.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
Keymastersome part of my soul that I didn’t realize still existed just died after looking at the latest spoilers for 510
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
Keymaster#2
http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/10/once-upon-time-episode-504-broken.html
YouTube when I get it
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterHuh, so on another forum people are saying Excalibur has Killian Jones written on it and the dagger part has Emma Swan’s name.
So…thus far this season the writers have been harping on Regina as the new Savior, but Dark Swan woke up Tabula Rasa Rumple in order to mold him into the hero she needs, but it’s all a bait and switch for Hook as the seasonal hero?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterI think for all of our sanity maybe it’s worth assuming that OUAT after 3×15 (actually, starting with 3B period) has been replaced with an evil doppelganger. I haven’t tried to do any sort of methodical analysis, but it seems to me that right around that point some of the core messages that OUAT started with were literally reversed or completely jettisoned. Compared to the “original,” Stepford!OUAT is a lot more patriarchal, heteronormative, focused on romance and ships as opposed to family, inconsistent about its moral compass, and plot rather than character driven. Many of its characters have been artificially remolded to suit some kind of new direction. That’s also where a ton of retcon started happening. (I’m sure I’m missing other examples
This is the most beautiful paragraph ever written.
I mean show, what is it about? What are its core values?
For me, OUAT’s core value now is entertainment, but not in the elevated television-as-art sort of way, but rather in a cheap, tawdry, melodramatic, cheesy, please-tweet-about-me sort of way. It’s about generating the most gasps, the most OMG and most buzzworthy moments possible instead of carefully crafting quiet introspective family (and yes, sometimes even romantic) moments that speak to a large audience about coping and surviving in the world when hope seems lost.
It’s style over substance.
And two, what the heck happened???
Ah yes, the big one. For me, it’s ABC/The Great Mouse. We often cast A and E in the “troll” or devil role, but I tend to believe that ABC had a much larger role to play in all this. I think they dictated that certain things had to happen (CS) and that A and E were backed into a corner and instead of fighting their way out, or trying to find a solution that would appease their Mousey overlords but not totally destroy their show (CS is endgame, but Neal gets to live and be a son/father) they went for the kill (literally) and did a reset (3A finale) and then started afresh meaning that the vestiges of the show-that-was had to be wiped away. Rumple went back to be all the EVILZ but without any of the human motivation. Snowing became baby-nappers who are about as complex as mayonnaise. Henry became an afterthought and the former villains–Regina and Hook–took up the mantel of hero-in-training and do more of the heavy lifting while Emma becomes a pawn in an online shipping war and the narrative is split between what is told (CS) and what is shown (SQ).
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterI mean Hook could have said the sword actually belonged to Rumpel and that Mila took it when she was ran away for protection and kept it ever since.
The symbolism is perfect!
But also still 100% made up. That’s the problem. Fans shouldn’t have to fanfiction their way through glaring plot holes, inconsistencies, and OOC moments like this (Belle not knowing about the shawl), especially when there are other–and frankly, more poetic given the entire breadth of the series–solutions.
It’s about the show runners being too lazy to double check their work (seriously, did no one on the staff think to WATCH the Crocodile again???) while simultaneously and *very* deliberately forgetting one of the founding paradigms of their show which was the father/son relationship of Rumplestiltskin and Baelfire which was muddled and heartbreaing and angst filled specifically because of the Dark One’s Curse.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterMorning all. TGIT tonight. (And Sleepy Hollow!!)
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterThe show has such a strict anti-Nealfire clause entrenched in its narrative that I can’t be surprised. Just angry when it’s pointed out.
*sigh*
But this example of the cutlass just really demonstrates the lengths to which they will go to blatantly ignore one of the founding ideas of the show.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RumplesGirl
KeymasterNot weird. Maybe someone is seeing thr darkness while Rumpel is there. I wonder: Is hook the dark one now?
Only if Emma is dead (unlikely) or got hat sucked (more likely but still repetitive)
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