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–Drizella killing the random prince simply to turn her heart black is fairly weird. It kinda simply didn’t make sense because it’s not like it put an end to Tremaine and her plotting. Why not just kill Tremaine or Anastasia?
She stated that she did not want to be set up with the Prince, so she either had no feelings, or antagonist feelings, for him already. Even putting that aside: her goal is to psychological torture her mother over a long period of time, so killing her mother quickly is already out. While killing the Prince does thwart her mom to get closer to the centre of the Kingdom’s power, its will sooner or later be in the rear view mirror. While I wouldn’t say one ever gets over one daughter killing another 😉 even if they were willing to kill that daughter to save the other 😉 … Drizella killing Anastasia, even if she did not have any sisterly feelings left for Ana, doesn’t satisfy her urge to continually torment her mother with her torture regiment. Which presumably includes leaving Anastasia’s resurrection just out of reach for, oh, about a decade or so 😉
[adrotate group="5"]^ Even if Henry’s book is exactly as imagine, that assumes one thinks a curse-created-book is 100% accurate and 0% misleading (why would cursers intentionally want that?) and/or that one’s desire to imagine themselves as a protagonist/good guy wouldn’t lead one to ignore discrepancies that would lead one to another conclusion. Like you said, Henry himself has a blind spot if there are any (as their should be) illustrations of Regina or Hook or Rumble.
Henry had a book in season 1, but didn’t know for sure who a lot of people’s Enchanted Forest personas were.
Another reason I’d like to see that kind of plot happen is I’d love to see a character scene after Regina comes to realize the truth, and has a sad moment realizing she was the antagonist (and worse), but Henry cheers/comforts her, validates her growth and her important role as his mother and now a good person/hero, and not as lesser than Emma.
Will she and Henry strike up a cursed!relationship?
*twitch* Please, no! Ivy is Henry’s sister-in-law. That would just cross too many lines.
Isn’t that step-sister-in-law?
(Presumably, no proof they ever got married yet, by any custom)
😉
Maybe being in the dark fairy realm has some residual effects and despite everyone else growing older by a year each year (except Rumple, Hook, and the Regina) Gideon 2.0 was aging twice as fast 😉
Lucy’s skeleton costume may have been a Day of the Dead reference. It works out-of-universe as a nod to the actress’ heritage and in-universe for its significance to the cursed personalities
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On a sillier note, the costume (complete with paper bag mask) could also refer to the mostly-headless Australopithecus skeleton known as Lucy.
And here I thought it might be a nod to The Paper Bag Princess, a book by Robert Munsch 😀
I mean, Ivy could have put a balaclava on the kid instead, probably easier for Lucy to see in than through the paper bag slits, and if black would look way cooler, more like a headless skeleton 🙂 But I suppose they’d only have a balaclava if they were skiers, or lived somewhere colder than Seattle.
I am trying to figure how I feel about what Gideon’s life tells us about the time line.
Assuming (and it is probably safe to say that one should never assuming on this show 😉 ) that Gideon growing up did not travel through time-weird lands (don’t see why his parents would take him back to where his grandmother raised him, or back to Neverland :p but there could be other places other than the edge of all realms).
Henry at end of season 6 was ~15 years old, and Gideon was a newborn.
Gideon growing up and leaving for some post-secondary-school equivalent adds ~20 years. (Unless he was meant to be younger and they wanted to use the same actor).
Lucy growing adds at 10 more years to this time line, and that is assuming she is conceived very soon.
That makes Henry ~45 years old now! So it is ~2045 in Seattle! (unless this if fictional Seattle 😉 )
Emma & the Charmings are ~65. Regina is *at least* 75 (not counting time under the first curse). And Regina is at least 65 in the flashbacks.
Now, about Alice. *At least* late teens when she met up with Rumple after he left The Edge of All Realms, so at least late 20s now. If so she was born around the time the Wish Realm was created, though she could be older. If the theory is that she is Wish Hook’s father, do we think their paths likely crossed in the 10 years before the new curse was enacted?
One thing that really confused me was I mixed up Rumble killing Fiona breaking the curse with TL breaking the curse. That did not make me happy, I was going, so what, killing someone for TL (of his wife/kid supposedly) now counts as worthy of a TL curse-breaking powers?! *laughs* They really should have made that distinct… They have ended so many curses with TLK I can’t recall what it has looked like when they did not use it. Those should really be more distinguishable…. 😉
I don’t think the Lucy-Enchanted-Forest scenes being a fast-forward mean it is a fast-forward past the final scene of the episode. Just that it is a fast-forward compared to the Enchanted Forest and Storybrook scenes from the rest of the episode. But it an still take place prior to the final scene in Seattle.
Are we sure that the scenes of Lucy in the enchanted forest were real. We have this episode with Emma in the loony-bin 😉
Sure, all the other theories are good too, I just have one to add.
I am just wondering if they are keeping closer to the original story. Lucy is Henry, Henry is Emma. And Emma thought Henry needed help 😉 I am not saying the first six seasons didn’t happen, but that after Lucy found/got the book somehow, showing the real stuff of season 1-6, she had a little day dream of living with her father in the Enchanted Forest, of a Fairy-Godmother giving her advise on hope, and set off to find her father.
In this case it doesn’t require Henry knowing he had a daughter. Whether he (or his loved ones) have been cursed is totally up in the air. I don’t think it would make it impossible to explain people’s absence though. Belle could finally be traveling the world, not having left Rumple, or even taking a break, just taking an extended trip ’round the world. (Gideon is either with her, or in a fancy boarding school). Emma could be on an extended visit to her parents and brother in the Enchanted Forest. I wouldn’t say Zelena really needs an explanation. I really think I’d prefer that to them being cursed and Rumple, Hook, and Regina have to spend a whole season moving heaven and earth to save them. Move on to different/new stories, don’t *complete* retread the last 6 seasons.
So going back to the Commander I don’t think he’s genuine when he says that he wants Offred’s life to be bearable, at least not truly genuine. He wants Offred’s life to be bearable so that it benefits him (so that his mare will produce a calf) but also because I strongly suspect that it makes him feel good about himself. Not that he feels guilty about the society he not only directly benefits from but also helped establish and continues to run but that it makes him feel like he’s a good master who is looking out for his flock.
I think it can be both, humans are complicated creatures 😉
It does make me think about when I read/hear people saying how slavery was not all bad, because it would not be good for a slave owner, in the long run, to harm his slaves. Sure, some slave owners treated their slaves well, in the context of being slaves, does that make slavery okay? Does that make the slave-owner not complicit in the inherent harms of slavery because they were “benevolent” slave owners, and did the bare minimum of human decency to someone who’s fate was in their hands? Yikes. Also reminds me of a recent news story, of a Senator claimed that Residential Schools (for Native Americans/First Nations) had some good that came out of them…. So, yeah, because the kids that were force-ably separated from their parents, so as to strip them of their family, language, culture, and religion…. because they weren’t all heaped with more abuse then that (which many were), and they were fed and clothed and educated (yeah, their parents wouldn’t have?), yeah, we should talk more about the *good* those schools did….. I am sure some of the people working in those schools were just employees who were trying to make the best of a bad situation, and makes those kids lives a little better in whichever small way was available… However it doesn’t undo the on-going wrong that was going on right in front of them.
It is not that people can’t be the bare minimum amount of decent in those situations, but some people can’t be, and that is why we shouldn’t have it codified that any people have that kind of absolute control and power over another.
