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  • November 21, 2013 at 10:40 pm #225665

    In reply to: Submit your questions for TV Guide Lightning Round 10

    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Did you always know that Peter Pan (Robbie Kay) would be Rumple’s (Robert Carlyle) father?
    Edward Kitsis:
    Yes, and if you re-watch all the episodes and their scenes together this season, you will see the buried hints sprinkled, including in Episode 4 when they come into the campfire and he says, “Now isn’t this a family reunion.”

    Will we ever see how Michael (James Immekus), John (Matt Kane) and Wendy (Freya Tingley) tried to defeat Pan in the past?
    Kitsis:
    Perhaps someday.
    Adam Horowitz: Maybe.

    Will we see what’s happening to Rumple in Pandora’s Box?
    Kitsis:
    No.

    Will we find out more about the origin of Henry’s (Jared Gilmore) storybook this season?
    Kitsis:
    Yes.
    Horowitz: And the first at it is soon.

    Will Emma (Jennifer Morrison) and Snow (Ginnifer Goodwin) discuss Snow’s desire to have another child?
    Kitsis and Horowitz:
    Yes.

    Peter Pan’s identity revealed! Once Upon a Time cast reacts

    Will Snow and Charming (Josh Dallas) find out about Neal (Michael Raymond-James) sending Emma to jail?
    Horowitz:
    Neal sending Emma to jail comes up again and is dealt with.

    Will we see more of Robin Hood (Sean Maguire) and Regina (Lana Parrilla) and how her decision not to meet him affected them both?
    Horowitz:
    Yes.

    Is there a connection between Tinker Bell (Rose McIver) and Belle (Emilie de Ravin)?
    Horowitz:
    Other than their names rhyming, they’re not part of the Bell family. That’s a clever idea, but that’s not the case.

    Will Ursula (Yvette Nicole Brown) return this season?
    Horowitz:
    Perhaps.

    Are we ever going to see Pinocchio (Eion Bailey) again?
    Kitsis and Horowitz:
    Yes.

    Will Emma’s foster home past be explored?
    Horowitz:
    Perhaps.

    Are we ever going to find out why Emma goes by the last name Swan?
    Horowitz:
    Yes.

    Will Emma be tempted by Dark Magic like Rumple and Regina were?
    Kitsis:
    Always.
    Horowitz:
    And dark chocolate.
    Kitsis: Yeah.

     

    Emma’s heart could not be ripped out. Could Henry’s because he did it himself?
    Kitsis:
    Yes.

    Will Henry ever learn that his mom Regina erased his memory after she told him of her plan to let everyone else die?
    Horowitz:
    Can’t say.

    Can a shadow be reattached to its host?
    Kitsis and Horowitz:
    Yes.

    Will we see more curses explored on the show?
    Kitsis:
    Yes.

    Will more worlds be explored in the second half of the season?
    Horowitz:
    Yes.

    Will there ever be a musical episode on Once Upon a Time?
    Kitsis:
    Who knows?
    Horowitz: Never say never. We have no immediate plans.
    Kitsis: We tried to do one for Comic-Con, but it become cost-prohibitive.

    http://www.tvguide.com/News/Once-Upon-Time-Lightning-Round-Spoilers-Horowitz-Kitsis-1073776.aspx

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    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    November 21, 2013 at 10:38 pm #225664

    In reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

    kfchimera
    Participant

    Yep that’s why I like that crack theory in general, and I like the variations Heather added that “Neal cassidy” would need to die for Bae to be reborn in a way.  It is not even a spoiler really as we don’t know half the stuff except that there are scenes in “NY” .

    lol Phee, I totally looked that stuff up too, which was why I think it would be about her being reported as missing (and she could have been missing for years far as family was concerned), or her car (which could have been stolen!) or something.  I think there are definitely loose ends to tie up and the whole thing of how Baby Henry got to SB might set up some of it, because even though Pan was in the end just this crazy man with a pile of boys to keep him company, the organization he created could have taken on a life of its own.

    “If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

    November 21, 2013 at 10:15 pm #225662

    In reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

    Phee
    Participant

    I just had a moment of clarity in the chat when Mickstemp mentioned that if Emma runs away from her feelings for Neal in S3 to date Hook, then she’ll be doing the exact same thing that Neal did by choosing to pursue Tamara rather than seek out Emma after she broke the curse. Tamara would be to Neal as Hook would be to Emma (except without the Tamara only pretending to be in love thing since Hook seems to have sincere feelings for Emma). Neal said the biggest regret of his life was letting his fear of rejection stand in the way of his belief in love. By choosing not to deal with her insecurities and feelings for Neal, Emma would essentially be taking the easy way out and letting fear stand in her way of a second chance with Neal, whom she truly loves. Doing the hard thing means facing the fear of rejection in order to believe in love.

    That’s such a great observation, it really would be the same situation! It may even be a necessary process that Emma will have to go through, before she’s able to fully understand what Neal himself did.

    As far as spoilery speculation goes, I’m honestly not worried about Neal being tossed down another portal or anything like that. It’s been done twice now, plus we’ve seen him carried between worlds via Shadow, so I really doubt they’d rehash it. I think that whatever’s going on in NYC has to have something to do with him, because it just wouldn’t make sense for them to even be in NYC for any reason that didn’t involve Neal somehow. The police station stuff makes me think that it will most likely be something to do with Tamara’s disappearance. I hope it IS that, because like KFC said, even people who don’t ship SF, in fact in particular people who don’t ship SF, want to see Neal dealing with the aftermath of his relationship with Tamara. And people hate Neal for having got off without jail time while Emma got locked up, so having Neal incarcerated for the Tamara thing might placate some of that anti-Neal sentiment, because karma will have caught up to him from some people’s point of view. It looks like the statute of limitations on grand theft in AZ is 7 years, (*adding to the list of things I never thought I’d google, but OUAT made me do it* http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/criminal-case-statute-of-limitations/AZ-felonies-misdemeanors.htm ), so they couldn’t write a story where he does hard time for the watch theft, but if he’s being investigated for Tamara’s disappearance, and the cops can’t punish him for the watches, they’ll probably try extra hard to pin Tamara’s disappearance on him. He wouldn’t be able to tell the truth of what happened to her, and his father, who would be his defense lawyer, is the one who actually killed her, in a magical land. Everyone would have to try and circumvent the real world’s legal process to cover up the magical murder in NL and get Neal his freedom. It could be a great storyline IMO. And a storyline like that would involve MRJ shooting all interior stuff on a soundstage, which is why he hasn’t been seen out and about for the exterior shoots, even though they’re in the city where Neal lives.

    November 21, 2013 at 9:59 pm #225661

    In reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

    heatherc1275
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    This break is going to drive us all bonkers, LOL 😆

    I’m coming around on the whole incarceration thing too because it gives the ‘fairytale’ of SwanFire, a real world problem that several other people will have to help solve, and I actually enjoy when the characters interact that way. I can see some great dramatic scenes between Neal and Emma or Henry or his father happen while he’s being held in jail because MRJ is SO GOOD at using his eyes to express Neal’s feelings and that would be amazing to watch.

    Allow me now to present you with my crack theory about how things could go down in the second part of S3….bear with me, this is really cracky and way too long. I may have thought about this way too much, LOL 😉

    CRACK THEORY:

    Neal gets called in for questioning while he’s packing up some of his things in NYC to move to Storybrooke permanently and during the questioning, Tamara’s body is discovered somewhere and he’s the prime suspect since they think he saw her last. BTW-I subscribe to the theory that THO has minions in our world and could magically figure out a way to produce a body and frame Neal to get him out of the way. They frame Neal because they have some sort of plan in place for the Storybrooke folks (perhaps something related to the Blue Fairy and Oz??! I’m a believer in that theory too) and they know taking him out this way will distract many of the town’s residents. They go through a trial and Neal finds out during it that this home office place is looking at the town for some reason (I can’t figure this part out but something big and Oz related) and he decides to plead guilty for Tamara’s murder to try to keep the minions away from the town and his family (i.e. sacrificing himself yet again :().

    Emotional trauma ensues as he’s carted off to jail and we get scenes of Rumple promising Neal he’s going to figure out a way to free him, Emma wanting to hold onto hope and Neal telling her to let go of him and to just keep Henry safe, Henry having to say goodbye to his dad, Hook using that opportunity to be there for Emma and allow CS to happen, and Snowing trying to figure out the mystery of the minions (which Neal shares with Rumple or Henry, either one works and they could even find out on their own when random people find the town). There could be some amazing scenes in all of this if they do it right and everyone could be seen trying to move past this event (Rumple becoming obsessed with geting his son free, Emma completely running from her past and trying to make a go of things with Hook, Henry being nice to Hook, even though he doesn’t like him, because he loves his mom, etc), and eventually, Emma, after realizing she can’t run from her problems (and after she finds out some of Hook’s past that he didn’t share with her and it honks her off), comes up with a plan to free Neal using magic. In between all this Neal deals with life behind bars (which has more downs than ups and we see him losing hope again when his family stops visiting) where he meets a strange gentleman there who knows all about the EF and Oz and has an idea as to whatever secret thing the minions are plotting. Emma goes to visit Neal and let him in on the plan and eventually, with some hilarious moments during the rescue sequence, they get Neal out by using a similar type of plan that got Neal locked up in the first place (they replace Neal in prison with a dead body that they magically make look like Neal implying he had a heart attack and died in his cell) and in effect, this ‘kills’ Neal Cassidy allowing Baelfire to let go of his past mistakes and move forward with his family. Emma has come to terms with the fact that she and Neal need to work on a lot of things but she would rather have some bumps and bruises along the road with Nealfire than to keep running from her past. Cue the happy SwanFire reunion sometime in the latter part of S3 part 2 and then we can all dance a jig for like ten years. Then they all go off to Oz to stop the minions and hello season four! 😀

    I know it’s massive crack and there’s a lot of pieces that would need filled in (and quite frankly, some of this stuff makes me tear up just thinking about it) but it could be quite a story and really unify the cast before heading into the adventures of season four. Mad props to any of you who actually read that entire thing, LOL 😆

     


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    November 21, 2013 at 7:52 pm #225625

    In reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    The majority of people tweeting about who is on set don’t work for A and E or ABC. And it’s a public place where they are allowed to be. So while the spoilers might distress some, they have *no* context. For all we know, Neal is inside the police station getting some sort of report and Hook and Emma are just waiting outside joking about his outfit. We don’t know anything. We have a lot of speculation and nothing more

     

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    November 21, 2013 at 7:49 pm #225624

    In reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

    Ozma
    Participant

    KFChimera wrote: On the other hand, if they’ve decided to do no holds barred CS, then writing out Neal and having him move to London with the Darlings or some other sort of convenient excuse why he would totally go against his character to stay with Emma and Henry, well I guess that’s the closest as you can get. He thought Emma and Neal were all he had, but now he has the Darlings again. It’s not satisfying to me, because I don’t see him walking out of Henry’s life that way, even if I could see him giving Emma space (and himself if she’s with Hook).

    I could never see Neal walking out on Henry. It would mean A and E don’t think the cycle of abandonment can be broken. And that’s maybe the worst ending for a fairy tale show ever. I would rather have Emma and Hook walk off into the sunset than to ever have Neal abandon Henry. So yeah, unsatisfying. KFC raises a really good point about spoilers. A spoiler is anything that is beyond episode 308. That means that even 309 is spoiler because it hasn’t aired. So Jane literally can’t say anything about ANY episode that is past 308 without it being considered spoiler. So no worries.

    If that is true Adam should have give the episode 12 title, they should have contain the spoiler pics of fake ny, and even his twites about belle and regina being on episode 12.

    The same witha menber of the crew that keeps telling who is filming.

    I think will be spoiler becuase something will happen to neal, and unlike last year, where we waited 1 episode to know he was alive, now we will have to wait for months.

    Becuase the only way they have emma and hook togethere is if neal is not around, that is because of tthat, that the kiss happen in episode 5, because, after that neal would be around.

    And now the same thing, that would be a good reason for regina to leave, where she promisses henry to bring his father back and runs into RH.

    November 21, 2013 at 7:38 pm #225621

    In reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    I’m not bothered by the idea of a possible incarceration either. It’s a very real world consequence to all the magic stuff. If Tamara was never brought up ever again then it means I’d have to suspend quite a bit of disbelief that no one–Grandma, friends, other family, co workers at THO–had noticed her missing. Neal thought she was a regular woman with friends and a 9-5, for all we know, Tamara had some sort of secret “fake” life she presented to Neal complete with friends.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    November 21, 2013 at 7:35 pm #225620

    In reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

    Josephine
    Participant

    Even if he and Emma are not together romantically, I can’t see him moving to London to be with the Darlings.  Henry is a part of him now.  He missed out on all that time.  Knowing how it is to grow up without his father around, Neal isn’t going to do the same thing to his flesh and blood to stay with a surrogate family.  If they’d go in that direction, then Adam and Eddy deserve all the hate tweets they’d get.  It totally goes against the character and goes into bad fanfiction territory.

    Here’s my cracky theory:

    If Neal is arrested for Tamara’s disappearance, then I think I might be totally fine with it. At first I was horrified and thought, “Oh, no.  What are they doing!”  But just think about it.  Rumors and pictures have Emma and Hook doing something around “NYC” without a trace of Neal around.  It appears they’re on a mission of some kind.  If Neal is imprisoned then Emma’s going to be worried and concentrated on getting him out of jail.  She’ll be all, “Not now, Hook!  Neal needs my help.”  And it actually works out good because CS shippers will be saying, “Oh, she’s spending so much time with Hook!” and SF shippers will be going “Oh, look at what all she’s doing to free the man she loves!”   Meanwhile, I will be swooning because this calls for Lawyer Gold to show up and be his representation in court.  Reports have Emilie and Bobby on location.  So we could have Mr. Gold being all powerful attorney working to free his son in the courtroom.  🙂  *sigh*   That is why I’m not necessarily horrified anymore at the thought of Neal being incarcerated. 

     

     

     

    Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

    November 21, 2013 at 7:26 pm #225619

    In reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    KFChimera wrote: On the other hand, if they’ve decided to do no holds barred CS, then writing out Neal and having him move to London with the Darlings or some other sort of convenient excuse why he would totally go against his character to stay with Emma and Henry, well  I guess that’s the closest as you can get.  He thought Emma and Neal were all he had, but now he has the Darlings again.   It’s not satisfying to me, because I don’t see him walking out of Henry’s life that way, even if I could see him giving Emma space (and himself if she’s with Hook).

     

    I could never see Neal walking out on Henry. It would mean A and E don’t think the cycle of abandonment can be broken. And that’s maybe the worst ending for a fairy tale show ever. I would rather have Emma and Hook walk off into the sunset than to ever have Neal abandon Henry. So yeah, unsatisfying.

    KFC raises a really good point about spoilers. A spoiler is anything that is beyond episode 308. That means that even 309 is spoiler because it hasn’t aired. So Jane literally can’t say anything about ANY episode that is past 308 without it being considered spoiler. So no worries.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    November 21, 2013 at 7:20 pm #225618

    In reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

    kfchimera
    Participant

    When it comes to spoilers, some days people are like Chicken Little and sometimes they’re like..well what is the opposite of that? I’m sure there’s a folktale that applies.  Maybe something about chickens and hatching eggs.  Anyway, let’s remember context is everything in this show.

      At this point, it would be a spoiler because everyone is in NL, and everyone is supposed to be in danger.  That MRJ hasn’t been spotted outdoors doesn’t mean he hasn’t been filming,but I’d think  it means he hasn’t been spotted filming by any of the usual people who follow such things.  I don’t know if the crew does this, but some productions will have a 2ndry unit filiming, perhaps in studio, and the paparazzi are going to go to the outdoor stuff.  So if there were simultaneous indoor things, they’d miss it.     .

    As to what Slurpeez said   I think if they had Neal in another land again it would be sort of a rehash, but putting him in jail is a way to create obstacles that doesn’t feel like a cheat.  It also sort of addresses something fans felt, that sort of karma so to speak, ought to catch up with Neal as Emma went to jail for helping him cover up with his crime.  So having him imprisoned for a crime he didn’t really do (that is something to do with Tamara missing) but is guilty about covering up (because presumably, he knows his father killed her or should find it out) would be sort of fitting.  It also wouldn’t make Neal so center-stage that people should get upset.   He’d be “off-screen” a lot in jail, and then everything would be on the other characters to deal with real world consequences.  It could create some awesome funny scenes of our “FTL” wandering around in the real world, always comedy gold when they tap into those moments of fairy tale meets real.  So, on the other hand, if they do something where Neal’s just absent because he got sucked in a portal, well, it’s going to feel like a rehash and super contrived rather than a natural sort of consequence of what’s gone before.     Bringing up Tamara, his past, all of these things are storylines even people who don’t ship SF have said they felt ought to be dealt with (mainly because those who don’t ship it want it to prove something negative about Neal’s depth of feeling for Emma….).   I say, bring it on.  Emma ought to confront Neal about Tamara, how well he knew her, and it should come out that maybe they had separate apartments (seemed like they did) and that while it appeared like he’d “moved on”in important ways, he hadn’t because what he feels for Emma is too strong.  Then as that’s happening, Emma could (say by 3.16 or whatever the anniversary is) close the door on Hook, and they can drag out SF more because knowing you do not want someone doesn’t mean you know you want someone else.  [spoiler]

    [spoiler] On the other hand, if they’ve decided to do no holds barred CS, then writing out Neal and having him move to London with the Darlings or some other sort of convenient excuse why he would totally go against his character to stay with Emma and Henry, well  I guess that’s the closest as you can get.  He thought Emma and Neal were all he had, but now he has the Darlings again.   It’s not satisfying to me, because I don’t see him walking out of Henry’s life that way, even if I could see him giving Emma space (and himself if she’s with Hook). 

    “If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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