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In reply to: TV Guide Scan 5/2 – Evil Queen Returning?
Anyone else feel like the show is going backwards—season wise at least? S5 (both A and B) had some serious S3A and B overtones and now S6A is set up like S2B. So is 6B going to look like 2A–maybe this time Charming and Emma get trapped in the EF and have to battle someone in order to get back home? There’s an awful lot of plot that got forsaken in 2 once NVL happened.
Strangely i see more Season 2 and 3 combined (Which is said since i liked the Neverland stuff) but the writers feel like they wanted to do the King Arthur stuff but then changed their minds last minute and do the underworld stuff next. Because I at least liked the Underworld stuff more than the Camelot stuff …at least in terms of the Season alone….Some of the Season now in terms of a “Overlasting Arc” (And i use the term very loosely) will feel more like filler in the long run, only to retroactively be tied into one another (Like how Cora got her end in Season 5 ) so if there is a FinalBattle between everyone and Rumple…again…it will feel retroactive and not part of a cohesive narrative.
[adrotate group="5"]In reply to: Alive Again
I’m trying to see how Hook even helped in taking Hades down?
Zelena would have made the choice of Regina over Hades without even seeing those pages, it told her nothing new because Hades had already explained to her it’s power! So how does Zeus think Hook assisted in killing Hades when Emma never killed him, and the pages literally played no part in it!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
In reply to: RIP Hades
Is not uncommon to kill a God in a TV show. Actually, another fiction TV shows around Greek mythology Hercules The Legendary Journeys & Xena Warrior Princess, had different “methods” to kill gods. I knew Zelena will end up killing Hades because she can’t possibly kill THE main character in OUAT. I was disappointed that Zeus only made a cameo and that they casted someone so young, if Hades is the younger brother and the actor looks like in his late 40s early 50s is ridiculous that the older brother is 20 or so years younger! They did it with Merlin but they had to screw Zeus too? It would had been cool have a flashback of Hades & Zeus but it wasn’t going to fit in this episode, a more deserving screen time was given to Robin Hood prior his demise. It is upseting that Regina is a widow ONCE AGAIN but Robin Hood was a decoration in the show. Sure, he had few episodes that featured him (particularly season 4), but hmm… who’s going to miss him? It also makes sense to kill him in order for Regina & Zelena to bond and raise the kids together as sisters unless of course the show creators decide to throw stuff in the fan again and screw that family too.
Now that Belle’s father refuses to wake her up I’m asumming Rumple will somehow garner the power of the Olympian crystal to wake up Belle. And for the God of love Eduardo Castro, can you take that ugly beanie from Emma’s head?!! How about everyone to get a costume change too huh? As much as I love Regina’s coat I’m already tired of seeing in every episode!!! ?
In reply to: Alive Again
No.
I think Hook in this episode was the best I liked him since season 2. This was a perfect way to end his character on the show, if not by having him and Emma have one final goodbye. He didn’t need to be resurrected.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICIn reply to: 522/523: Season Finale Promo
So…I am hoping this is a Segway into who Mal’s baby daddy is. Once they meet the dragon, emma could be all oh, you should come back to SB with us, there is another dragon there called maleficent. And he’d be all “Oh, I met a maleficent. Got drunk on fire and brimstone, met this dragoness named Maleficent, went back to her cave and….Oh my….”
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICAs we know I don’t ship, however, I just have to say that it sucks that Emma is going to grieve for Hook, but didn’t really for Neal.
Neal is the father of her child and nobody grieved for him.
I didn’t like really anything an haven’t for awhile. I try to find pockets of the first two seasons, the excitement, but it’s just not there. I’m disappointed. Regina is never going to see Robin again! This show isn’t about hope, it’s a circus.
Okay, real talk. We all knew this episode was coming and what was going to happen. There seems to be a theory that the final three episodes of a season go off the rails (certainly did for S5A) and I don’t think this is any exception. It’s a shame not only because of the totally unnecessary death of Robin but also because I had really been enjoying Hades and the Underworld story (messy and under developed as the world building was). A charismatic character makes up for a lot but so much of this episode was just….bad. It sucks that an arc that started out pretty promising and pretty interesting managed to stumble across its finish line, broken and bruised.
LIKED
–“Hello there.” Say what you want about this season (and I’ll be saying a lot after tonight), but Hades has been spectacular.
–“He’s not a man; he’s a god!” Someone finally remembered this vital piece of information.
–“For you, I’d give up anything.” I hate myself for really liking Zades, but I do.
–Regina and Robin going through the secret tunnel into the Mayor’s house is pretty reminiscent of their moment in “Witch Hunt.”
–Can we just have a Cruella show?
–“I’ve had a few 1000 years to dwell on it.”
–The arrows on the roses are a nice touch
MIXED
–The Arthur/Hook quest. Those two are so scary alike (possessive, obsessive) and it’s highlighted here, but I don’t like either character so I don’t really want to see their little adventure.
DISLIKED
–“I’ve come to explain to everyone that Hades has changed!” How exactly does one explain something like this?
–Anytime Arthur appears I can feel my skin crawl. And he like randomly died??
–This is a [Magical MacGuffin] that I’ve had this whole time but kept in pocket for inexplicable reasons and now I get to use it!
–The Olympian Crystal is not a real thing.
–Moe refuses to give Belle TLK until Rumple leaves the picture. The parents on this show are appalling. All of them.
–‘We all have the capability to change!” (Now let’s go steal back my daughter from the Wicked Witch and Lord of the Underworld) (Contradictions!)
–“You’re my future” This is the kiss of death for Robin.
–Lost Souls are scared of fire! Who knew!
–I’m sorry but Hook magicked the pages into the book in SB….how???
–So lemme get this straight…Robin just doesn’t exist anymore? No moving on. No “heaven” no better place….NOTHING? But Hook, a mass murderer, gets to live? Okay.
–True Love means giving up everything for the person you love. This is a HORRIBLE message. I don’t care if it’s a fairy tale show. It’s a horrible message. Robin has children–TWO of them. TWO. But apparently his sacrifice was necessary because of true love! You have two children, Robin. TWO. But yet you tell Hades “kill me instead!” My god.
–Emma Swan, Cosmic Savior, plays absolutely no role in taking down Hades. Instead it’s just whoever stabs the Lord of the Underworld with a glowy object.
–Zeus resurrects Hook for reasons! Why? Someone tell me why. I’m not being anti-Hook or anti-CS but this is nonsense. Hook still did great evil and all he did for “good” was put some pages in a book. I mean are you kidding me? That’s it? That’s what gets you blessed by a god and returned to earth?
–What a total and complete waste of Zeus! We didn’t even get a flashback of Hades and Zeus!
–They named the baby Robin. I am so shocked, guys. Like so shocked.
–Tacky and heartless make out scene at a funeral during “goodbye” for another character. “I don’t caer how you’re back; just that you’re back!” Plz, go to a room and do this. So tacky.
–“This is my kingdom” For gods sake Rumple!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"5/10….I’m pissed at new heights right now!
Like:
Zelena showing concern for Regina at the beginning of the episode!
Zelena warning her sister and Robin not to go up against Hades.
WickedSisters actually trying to talk with one another before coming to fireballs.
Season 3 feelings all over again!
Robin having enough of everyone’s (beep). XD
Rumple’s Cane of Doom!
Flirty Cruella!!!! Ha!
OutlawQueen’s tender moment!!!! I’m in tears!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Robin and Regina sneaking into the office….
WickedSisters making amends in the end, Zelena choosing to save her sister!
Mixed:
Did Hades really have to kill Arthur while holding the baby….poor baby pistachio has just witnessed her first murder.
Hades playing Zelena after I was originally rooting him!
I must have missed something….how did Hook get the missing pages?
Dislike:
Sure Zelena, let’s leave the baby with the God of Death.
Maurice refusing to wake Belle!!!! WTH?! What type of father are you?
Adam and Eddy really cutting out Robin and Roland’s Reunion Scene!!!!!!!!!!!!????????!!
Robin dying!!!! No he was destroyed….so he doesn’t even go to Heaven!!!! Oh but Zeus resurrects Hook!!! WHAT THE (Beep) (Ranting in very vulgar language right now!)
Emma and Hook reuniting and kissing over Robin’s dead body…..
BOTH SISTERS LOST THEIR TRUE LOVES IN THE SAME EPISODE!!!!!!! I THINK I’M ROOTING FOR EVIL QUEEN & WICKED WITCH TO JUST BURN STORYBROOKE TO THE GOTD— GROUND!
I have a new hatred for this show……
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
In reply to: 521 – Promo and Behind the Scenes Photos
Perhaps Emma takes some responsibility for her actions and actually works hard to protect the town instead of just her family?
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixIn reply to: TV Guide Scan 5/2 – Evil Queen Returning?
What happened was that people hated Emma and Snow being separated from the rest of the group, they hated it immediately. That is why Emma and Snow came back mid season. That had nothing to do with Hook or getting Neverland. Then Colin broke his leg and disappeared from the show for a few episodes, he was tied up somewhere in New York. Then they got the rights to Neverland really late in the season. They moved up Cora’s death which was supposed to be the finale, changed the anti magic cult to being Pan’s minions, and then added Hook into the fail safe plot that came out of nowhere and made no sense. They did not have the rights to Neverland early in the season. They did not intend or desire to bring Hook into the first season regardless of what lies they say about it now. They liked the Peter Pan story, but just as much as any of the other stories they did. When they pitched the show Hook wasn’t even a thought.
Also, why does any of that matter? Hook was not part of the plan, but he is Emma’s love interest now. People who like Hook get that, they don’t get that it was part of the plan, because it wasn’t.
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