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Grimmsister
Participant@Faux Pax wrote:
I think it would be even more interesting if Henry convinces her to let him come along. And when they both show up on Neal’s door step not knowing Bae is really him… đŽ đŽ đ
I am so twisted.
You’re right ..! They might just do that. Not sure I would like that very much though. To me that would look really silly. But I doo see there is a very big possibility of that happening đ
Maybe then, when Neal opens his door, Emma will just march of with Henry, ready to kick some Rumple butt, for once again setting her up to play his game.. she will think.But I wonder what Neal is up too. Isn’t he supposed to try and find his own way to Storybrook. Now that he knows the curse is broken ??
[adrotate group="5"]December 5, 2012 at 6:56 am #163735In reply to: Captain Hook
bec
ParticipantThat scene, in 2X09, does not allow for any redemption. He hit and was ready to kill a human just because they were useless to him. No matter which way you try to spin it, it is non-justified violence
Just because he was going to kill someone who was useless doesnt mean he cant be redeemed. And he is a villian, what do you expect? For Hook to to ask Belle, ‘Ok please dont tell anyone I asked you this’ and then just walk off.
He is a villian now, but he will be redeemed in the future.In comparison, I doubt Rumple and Regina go about their day killing random peasant simply because they will make no use of them
Oh, ok, so that makes it fine then that they killed people because they had a purpose for it. It is perfectly ok for Rumple to kill Milah because he was angry at her, and it was ok that Regina killed her own father just to cast the curse! Thats not even a reason to say he cant be redeemed! Also what about what Regina did to Graham. That was perfectly ok for Regina to control him like that because she was feeling lonely.
All the characters were redeemed out of LOVE. Hook has already developed a soft side for Emma, which will only continue to become stronger. This will force him to make the decision to either let go of the past or let go of Emma.
I just don’t understand how some people say that what Hook did was terrible and he cant be redeemed, but Regina and Rumple are saints and can be redeemed.
December 5, 2012 at 6:35 am #163734In reply to: Poor Regina
Grimmsister
Participant@slurpeez108 wrote:
@MagicKingdomጠwrote:
. And I seriously hope the reason why she goes off the rails doesn’t have anything to do with Henry not inviting her over for dinner. That would be silly.
Yes, it would be silly for a normal, level-headed person to fly off the rails for not getting a dinner invite. Yet, Regina is an unstable, recovering magic addict without a support network and a crazy, manipulative witch of a mother who’s just arrived in SB. Any threat (real or not) that Regina perceives that she’s losing Henry could be enough to push Regina off the no-magic bandwagon. Plus, with Mr. Gold whispering dangerous thoughts of Regina losing custody of her son, she’s bound to snap at some point.
I don’t think the deal is going to be about her not getting an invite or not. I think too much is being put in to that invitation. That is not going to be THE reason she drops of the ‘no magic wagon’. It’s probably going to be about the threat of loosing Henry to either the Charmings or Cora. The scene in Golds shop with the invite and Henry letting go of her hand, was just a little hint of that happening in the future. I think…
@slurpeez108 wrote:
Also, Regina has a very bad history at misdirecting the blame where her mother is involved. Regina went crazy for something her mother did (killing Daniel) but then proceeded to take out her anger on Snow, who was young and manipulated by Cora. Regina’s anger at what her mother did is disproportionally taken out on the Charmings and everyone else. Cora being in town could seriously take away whatever little sanity Regina managed to recover since the curse was broken. If Regina perceives that Cora could try and take Henry, she may feel the only way to protect him is by resorting to magic, which she doesn’t know Emma has. She might therefore strongly object to the Charmings claim to custody. The promo for 2×10 shows Regina yelling at the Charmings “you're not going to take my son!” and then using magic to violently blow Emma backwards. I'd say the old, rage-fuled Regina could be rearing her head because of her mother's arrival and also because of her perception that the Charmings are excluding Regina from Henry's life (however true or not).
in regards to the spoiler remark. I think in the next couple of episodes we will see Evil popping up its ugly head in the faces of the Charmings. That would be great, I think, to see it from that side now that we have seen good from the ‘evil’ side. If you get my point….sometimes i’m terrible at explaining myself đ
December 5, 2012 at 5:57 am #163732In reply to: Poor Regina
Slurpeez
Participant@MagicKingdomጠwrote:
I felt bad for Regina during last week’s episode, but I understood why the Charmings didn’t invite her. Too much has happened between them for them to just become besties. The fact that the they’re being polite to one another should be enough for Regina. She was almost torn apart by an angry mob a few weeks ago, and now, she’s getting praise from the people who she tried to kill. Regina should be grateful. And I seriously hope the reason why she goes off the rails doesn’t have anything to do with Henry not inviting her over for dinner. That would be silly.
Yes, it would be silly for a normal, level-headed person to fly off the rails for not getting a dinner invite. Yet, Regina is an unstable, recovering magic addict without a support network and a crazy, manipulative witch of a mother who’s just arrived in SB. Any threat (real or not) that Regina perceives that she’s losing Henry could be enough to push Regina off the no-magic bandwagon. Plus, with Mr. Gold whispering dangerous thoughts of Regina losing custody of her son, she’s bound to snap at some point.
Also, Regina has a very bad history at misdirecting the blame where her mother is involved. Regina went crazy for something her mother did (killing Daniel) but then proceeded to take out her anger on Snow, who was young and manipulated by Cora. Regina’s anger at what her mother did is disproportionally taken out on the Charmings and everyone else. Cora being in town could seriously take away whatever little sanity Regina managed to recover since the curse was broken. If Regina perceives that Cora could try and take Henry, she may feel the only way to protect him is by resorting to magic, which she doesn’t know Emma has. She might therefore strongly object to the Charmings’ claim to custody. The promo for 2×10 shows Regina yelling at the Charmings “you're not going to take my son!” and then using magic to violently blow Emma backwards. I'd say the old, rage-fuled Regina could be rearing her head because of her mother's arrival and also because of her perception that the Charmings are excluding Regina from Henry's life (however true or not).
"Thatâs how you know youâve really got a home. When you leave it, thereâs this feeling that you canât shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
December 5, 2012 at 5:07 am #163727In reply to: Who will teach magic to Emma ?
Slurpeez
ParticipantI have a feeling that as true love incarnate, Emma’s magic doesn’t jive with dark magic, but surpasses it. Rumple said to his son that fairy dust didn’t mix with what he is, and Emma’s magic may not either. I think whoever ends up teaching Emma will practice good magic, like a fairy or a good wizard whom we’ve yet to meet. Plus, Jennifer Morrison gave the following explanation about Emma’s magic in relation to Mr. Gold:
WHAT WAS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT EMMA/MR. GOLD CONVO?
Having become aware that Rumplestiltskin knew from before her birth that she was the savior, Emma upon returning to Storybrooke confronted Mr. Gold about keeping secrets â only to realize that she has a surprise to share with him. âItâs a game of chess for her, because if she has the power to not have her heart ripped out by Cora, that makes her pretty powerful,â says Jennifer Morrison. âShe doesnât understand that power, though, and she doesnât know the rules, but she doesnât want to ask him for help, so she is in a delicate way trying to figure out how powerful she is in relation to him.â http://tvline.com/2012/12/02/once-upon-a-time-midseason-finale-recap-burning-questions/2/Sounds like Emma doesn’t really trust Mr. Gold to teach her. She was simply sizing him up and seeking an answer to whether he designed her to have magic. Mr. Gold said back in S1 that Emma was more powerful than she realized. I think she’s just starting to understand how powerful, but she doesn’t want Gold’s help.
@bec wrote:
I wonder if Emma using magic will come at a price though..? I wonder if she’ll take the chance that something could happen to Henry.
I have a feeling that it’s predominately dark magic which always comes with a price. When Emma repelled Cora with magic, it didn’t seem like Emma paid a price. Plus, I don’t think Emma simply has magic. I think Emma is magic. She is the living, breathing personification of the purest, most powerful form of magic: true love. True love doesn’t come with a price, but it does break curses and dark magic. So, since Emma is magic, she doesn’t wield it but simply generates it, bypassing any “cost” that might come when someone like Regina tries to use it.
"Thatâs how you know youâve really got a home. When you leave it, thereâs this feeling that you canât shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
December 5, 2012 at 4:40 am #163723In reply to: Who will teach magic to Emma ?
bec
ParticipantI wonder if Emma using magic will come at a price though..? I wonder if she’ll take the chance that something could happen to Henry.
December 5, 2012 at 4:29 am #163722In reply to: Who wrote Henry’s book anyway?
Phee
Participant@TimeSpacer wrote:
I hadn’t thought of Snow, but I really like that idea, if they could explain the final entry which showed Charming putting Emma in the wardrobe.
Yes, that’s the thing, how many people could have known enough to include that story, complete with a picture of a wounded Charming putting Emma into the wardrobe? Blue would know if she flitted back at the last moment, to make sure Emma had got away in time, and saw it happen.
I suppose you could argue that Snow was there too, just after it happened. But if Snow wrote the book after the curse, that means she remembered on some level, but in SB she clearly had no idea about her former life, so that doesn’t add up for me.
December 5, 2012 at 3:58 am #163714In reply to: Who wrote Henry’s book anyway?
maiqu20
Participant@Hellraiser-89 wrote:
Hmm now that I think about it, did Jefferson want the curse broken or did he just want Emma to make a working portal-hat?
I don’t think he cared which one, he wanted one of them done
December 5, 2012 at 3:54 am #163713In reply to: The Captain Swan thread!
maiqu20
ParticipantOh he definitely let her win and this episode was just filled with hints..I think our ship is sailing better than ever
He called her magical and full of hope (yes he said he was done with her but that means there was something there to begin with and honestly the bean came back to life, so basically his feelings for Emma? so not done!)
He looked really hurt at the whole Emma leaving him on the beanstalk (and emma looked guilty)
He let her win that swordfight (and i’m sorry but that just filled with innuendo and flirting)
He told her he wouldn’t have betrayed her
there's also eddy's comment's from the official podcast
dont forget we've been told she'll be a distraction for his revenge, and jennifer's comments about emma being aggressively pursued, plus meghan's comment about captain swanWe have to have faith, they won’t happen quickly they will be slowly built up (and that’s the best part)
December 5, 2012 at 3:49 am #163712In reply to: Casting Call
antbee
Participant@Phee wrote:
Could be one of the child soldiers in the Ogre War. In which case she’d likely be someone Rumple met. Would we be due for another Rumple ep by then? Actually, scratch that, because 10 was below the recruiting age, and we don’t even know that they were recruiting kids at the time when Rumple went to war. Though I guess if she was just a POW and not also a soldier, her age wouldn’t exclude her being involved.
You could be onto something. Besides realizing he was facing a losing battle and deserting, I wonder if what he saw at war caused Rumple to become a “coward”, which I think is actually him having post traumatic stress disorder. (I actually don’t think he was a coward until he became the Dark One, ironically, because a coward wouldn’t have tried to get the Dagger or get his wife back from pirates, even if he did fail at the latter quest.)
Anyhow, if he saw children being taken prisoner and who knows what kind of treatment he saw them receive that could be a large part of his PTSD.
As for being ready for another Rumple episode, I think it would as long as we don’t get one now between now and this episode.
Episode 1 – Ensemble
Episode 2 – Regina-centric
Episode 3 – Snow-centric
Episode 4 – Rumple-centric
Episode 5 – Regina-centric, to me, but should have been Dr. Whale-centric
Episode 6 – Emma-centric
Episode 7 – Ruby-centric
Episode 8 – Ensemble
Episode 9 – Ensemble
Episode 10 – Archie? Regina?
Episode 11 – Belle
Episode 12 – Rumple? Hook? Dr. Whale?
Episode 13 – Aurora? Snow?
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