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September 25, 2012 at 4:13 am #154507
In reply to: 2×3 Episode Description
Phee
ParticipantEmma and Mary Margaret, with the aid of Mulan, Aurora and brave knight Lancelot, attempt to find a portal that will bring them back to Storybrooke. But a dark force threatens their safe return.
So Emma and Snow DO go back to FTL past! đŽ And Lancelot is on the side of good….unless he’s trying to double cross them or something and only pretending to help. And again, no mention of Phillip. I’m really starting to think he’s not gonna survive very long. đ
[adrotate group="5"]September 24, 2012 at 11:29 pm #154497In reply to: Sneak Peeks
hjbau
ParticipantThis gif made me laugh. It almost gives me a headache.
Emma’s at a dance party.
shery0812
ParticipantHey, all! I’m new around here and I enjoy reading all of you guys’s theories, particularly about Baelfire, a character I’m deeply invested in.
First off, I just want to say–how MUCH I loathe the Bae-is-Henry’s-father theory. Seriously, I despise and hate it so, so much. My reasons for that range from me having my own and rigid theory as to what happened to Bae, to pretty much not liking the idea of Bae being the lowlife person Emma suggested Henry’s father is.
HOWEVER…I suppose that IS where the show is headed, isn’t it? I mean, the heavy hints dropped by the writers, the pieces all fitting together, story-wise, it almost seems inevitable that Bae WILL wind up being the father. *sigh* blah…
I love the idea of Baelfire having ended up in Neverland somewhow (in fact, it fits perfectly with my theory, which is too tedious and convoluted to explain here), but yea…it also does away with that nasty time frame plothole/glitch which at this point is the only thing that keeps me grasping to the thin thread of hope that Baelfire is in fact not the father.
But I guess we shall see. I may not like how the writers end up re-introducing Bae into the show, but I’m sure I can learn to live with it IF it’s woven in intelligently and creatively. đ
September 24, 2012 at 8:36 pm #154484In reply to: Henry’s Father
antbee
Participant@Faux Pax wrote:
I, personally, don’t really like the idea of Bae being Peter. It just doesn’t seem to fit his personality. Peter is impulsive and childish but Bae seems more cautious and rather mature for his age. Not only that, but, besides the faeries themselves, Peter is arguably the most magical person in Neverland (he is the only boy who can fly, after all). That doesn’t seem to fit with Bae, to me.
Yes, I can see arguments for Bae being Peter or the Wizard from the Wizard of Oz, but I’m not really fond of either idea because I feel it would be a cheat if the the bean took him some place that there was magic.
That’s also an excellent point about it not really fitting Bae’s personality. Not that people can’t change like I expect I’m sure he has, but it would be strange, I think if he went from a cautious, mature boy to a boy that refused to grow up, then assuming he’s Henry’s father, which I'm 99% sure he must be based on the most recent TV Guide spoilers, turning into a man that acts like a boy who then becomes a mature an adult by the end. It just seems like a lot of personality changes for one character even if he is several hundred years old if he were Peter Pan even his dad. Maybe if he was just Peter Pan, but since I don’t think he’s just going to be Peter Pan, I think they’ll just have him be Bae, Henry’s dad, and whatever alias he’s calling himself on Earth.
I’m rooting for Baelfire to be Henry’s father too. It just makes too much sense to not be true. And it would add an extra element of mystery to Henry’s character. Henry could quite possibily have two of the most powerful parents on the show. Emma is the savior, and the curse is actually about Baelfire, so that makes him significant as well. His parents will have a direct connection to not only the curse, but the center of the story. So, with Henry having such powerful parents, what does that make Henry? He could end up being this story’s Luke Skywalker for all we know.
Yes, obviously Henry is already a very special kid, but I do think that it would give him even more of a purpose in the story if Bae turns out to be his father and Rumple his grandfather. One of the reasons is that I just feel like there would be a nice balance/symmetry between the family unit of Emma, Bae, and Henry.
For instance, right now at the IMDb forums, there’s a lively debate going on in whether or not Bae’s or Henry’s way is better in dealing with their respective evil parents. I think both kids are right in how they handled it because they’re not exactly the same situations, but I was thinking about how if Bae turns out to be Henry’s dad, they can help each other gain some kind of perspective or balance I guess. I’m not saying that Henry has to ever forgive Regina or be a part of helping redeem her, but I think it would be wonderful to see father and son bond eventually over the situations that they were put into to. Maybe Bae could help Henry see that Regina might be evil, but she wasn’t always that way, and Henry could help Bae come to terms with his own father.
Plus, I think that they could all help each other with the terrible situations life dealt them. Bae and Henry could help Emma understand more what Emma’s parents were trying to do for her since the former was actually abandoned by his parent, perhaps by both his parents, and the latter completely understands why his mom gave him up for adoption.
Of course, they would all give each other the family that each of them wants but doesn’t have yet.
September 24, 2012 at 8:03 pm #154483In reply to: 2×3 Episode Description
Slurpeez
ParticipantFull plot synopsis for 2×3 – Lady of the Lake:
Emma and Mary Margaret, with the aid of Mulan, Aurora and brave knight Lancelot, attempt to find a portal that will bring them back to Storybrooke. But a dark force threatens their safe return. And Henry tries to talk Jefferson into reuniting with his daughter. Meanwhile, back in the fairytale land that was, on the eve of meeting Prince Charming’s mother, King George poisons Snow White, and the only antidote lies within the waters of the Lady of the Lake.
“Once Upon a Time” stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry Mills, Meghan Ory as Red Riding Hood/Ruby, and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.
Guest starring are Barbara Hershey as Cora, Alan Dale as King George, Sarah Bolger as Aurora, Jamie Chung as Mulan, Sebastian Stan as Jefferson, Gabrielle Rose as Ruth, Sinqua Walls as Lancelot and Alissa Skovbye as Paige.
“Lady of the Lake” was written by Andrew Chambliss & Ian Goldberg and directed by Milan Cheylov.
"Thatâs how you know youâve really got a home. When you leave it, thereâs this feeling that you canât shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
September 24, 2012 at 7:35 pm #154481In reply to: Henry’s Father
fairy dust
Participant@TheGoldenKey wrote:
The motivation for J.M. Barrie writing Peter Pan was the death of his 13 year old brother. His brother died 2 days before his 14th birthday. Note that Bae was 14 when he disappeared.
Barrie called Peter and the children of Neverland `lost boys`. This was in reference to parents that had lost children to death, as his mother had. Note that Rumples ALWAYS refers to Bae as being `lost`.
Peter Pan and the other lost boys were caught between two worlds. Life & death. Note that Bae is caught between two worlds, magic & real world.
The Blue Fairy instructs Bae to follow the magic bean wherever it leads him. This leads us to believe that he went to at least one other world before reaching ours.
Robert Carlyle has admitted that Rumples is several centuries old. So timeline for Bae going missing is many centuries as well, as he went through the vortex when Rumples first took power. The 1st and 2nd Ogre Wars also show us that time frame. This was long before Snow, PC, EQ, Gepetto, Jiminy, etc. So, considering that Bae is several centuries old, it would make sense if he landed in Neverland and remained 14 prior to coming to the real world.
Peter Pan would travel to the real world and bring children back to Neverland. Emma was an orphan, living in an orphanage. What if Peter traveled there looking for `lost boys`. Bae had a friend Morraine back in FTL. I believe a young Emma would have resembled Morraine in many ways. Perhaps Peter became quite taken with Emma and decided to stay. Perhaps Emma convinced him to stay, just as Wendy attempted to do in the original story. Perhaps he ended up in that same orphanage from 14 on, developed a friendship with Emma that ended in their late teens. That could also bring into play the possibility of Bae, aka Peter Pan, being Henry`s father.
We now have Captain Hook in SB. K&H also stated that we would find out about Bae this season as we would about Henry`s father. Funny how they have brought Michael Raymond-James in, with a recurring role, and have been so secretive about his character. Let`s not forget how uncanny his resemblance is to Dylan Schmid, young Baelfire.
This has been my theory since last February that Bae would end up as Peter Pan. Recent spoilers have only convinced more. In Season 2 stills, we see Henry floating outside his window. Coincidence? I don’t think so. I think he inherited his father’s special gift of flying. In the upcoming issue of TV Guide, posted here under the News tab, Josh Dallas says this about Emma & Henry’s father: âthere is a certain percentage of this man that Emma knows, and a certain part that she doesnât. She had some sort of relationship with him, but there is an element of surprise for Emma as to the fullness of who this man is.â This would follow my theory of Peter Pan showing up at Emma’s orphanage at 14 and remaining for a number of years. She knows him as an adolescent/young adult from the orphanage but has no idea of his Fairy Tale character.
Go team Bae/Peter Pan/Henry’s fatherI love the idea of Bae being Peter Pan. We saw the tearful reunion he had with August, who was an adult and not really his son. The idea of him having a reunion with Bae, and his boy still being a boy would be something I would love. Of course this messes with the Bae as Henry’s father part, but either way I love the idea of Bae as Peter.
September 24, 2012 at 12:55 pm #154466In reply to: Henry’s Father
thedarkone
ParticipantI’m rooting for Baelfire to be Henry’s father too. It just makes too much sense to not be true. And it would add an extra element of mystery to Henry’s character. Henry could quite possibily have two of the most powerful parents on the show. Emma is the savior, and the curse is actually about Baelfire, so that makes him significant as well. His parents will have a direct connection to not only the curse, but the center of the story. So, with Henry having such powerful parents, what does that make Henry? He could end up being this story’s Luke Skywalker for all we know.
September 24, 2012 at 10:40 am #154458In reply to: New Pomo Video
mickey
ParticipantI think it’s pretty obvious by looking at the promos and sneak peeks that Regina is the real antagonist and the Charmings are first and foremost going against her. But it was obvious even before the promos appeared on the basis of what happened so far in the series.
After all Regina not Rumple is the one who tried to put both Snow and Emma under the sleeping curse which is considered worse than death, ordered to kill Charming, manipulated someone into killing Snow’s father and almost killed Henry. She’s the Charmings’ personal enemy not Rump.
But it’s not only that. It’s also the difference between Regina’s and Rumple’s attitude towards other people. Regina takes pleasure in other people’s suffering and tries to make everybody else around her miserable. Her happy ending is depriving other people of their happily ever after. With Rumple it’s different. I agree that he doesn’t care about people other than his loved ones and uses others as a means to an end which is finding his son. But contrary to Regina he doesn’t enjoy their misery and doesn’t actively seek opportunities to make them unhappy. He’s not emotionally involved in their lives, he just doesn’t care. His happy ending is the reunion with his son. He’s obviously no angel. If a member of Charming family ever tried to get in the way of finding his son, he would be capable of murder, I’m sure. But his goal is not hurting the Charmings, whereas Regina’s is. And the Charmings know that.September 24, 2012 at 6:30 am #154453In reply to: episode 5 title
gypsy
ParticipantLOST had clues, anagrams and easter eggs that actually made a difference in understanding the plot/storyline- the creators intended for people to dig deeper and figure them out. OUAT has that, too, for those who choose to dig deeper, ‘analyze’ the clues and theorize. The difference is, OUAT can stand on it’s own, as well, for those who just want to watch and be entertained. Not catching the nods/clues- won’t make it hard to follow, as was the case with LOST. As far as genre’s, K&H have repeatedly said it’s about ‘stories’. Here’s an excerpt from a recent interview comparing OUAT to LOST:
Question: Okay, Iâll bite â whatâs the big Lost-esque twist coming up on Once Upon a Time involving Mary Margaret and Emma?
Ausiello: Remember how Lost would forever find new angles from which to tell a story? And you know how Once already uses flashbacks to the fairytale land that was? Well, you didnât think theyâd leave the narrative as linear as that, did you?Read More at: http://tvline.com/2012/08/28/walking-dead-season-3-death-spoiler/#utm_source=copypaste&utm_campaign=referral
September 24, 2012 at 5:36 am #154449surayya
ParticipantOk, from what I can find out, when you turn 18 in juvy, you can actually finish out your sentence there if it’s to end with-in 6mths.
So it is possible that since Emma was being told she couldnt keep her kid, that she wouldnt make a good mother & giving him up would be best for him etc, that she did in deed give birth to him in that last 6mth period or she could have been arrested (while pregnant) at age 17 & given birth 3-8wks before her 18th birthday (as Gypsy said).
I know she told Henry that they took him off her, however she would have had to sign paper work or something saying she was handing him over before she had him & if she changed her mind after he arrived, it was just to bad- I read that usually the child is put into the system if the family or a temporary home/foster carer isn’t or hasn’t been arranged by the time the child arrives.Just throwing it out there đ
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