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@Bo-Peeps I get what you mean with life saving kiss. It’s just that TLK must be more obvious for the rest of fandnom.
And I see it happening exactly as you have described. I’m just not sure about the time. I would like to see it in 4a but I’m not sure they would write it that way.
@sweetgrass I think that Hook will be at least tempted to cut of his hand. It represents so much of his internal issiues. We’ll see. I think A&E said in one of their inteviews that Hook is a new acquaintance of Will, same as Emma.[adrotate group="5"]In regards to the kiss of life being TLK or not- What we know:
Emma’s kiss broke Graham’s curse in season 1. So unless Graham was Emma’s true love, Emma is true love incarnate meaning her kisses generally break curses. Also Regina’s TLK broke Henry’s curse, Emma’s TLK woke him in season 1 and TLK has to be mutual hence why it didn’t work for RumBelle or Snowing when Belle and Snow lost their memories.
Zelena’s curse on Hook’s lips was designed to take away Emma’s magic permenantly (it would be stupid to only have her magic taken away temporarily. Zelena needed Emma powerless so she wouldn’t be a risk anymore).
TLK can break any curse.
Emma’s magic came back.
My theory: Whilst there is no concrete evidence to prove that the lifesaving kiss was indeed a TLK, the fact that it was Emma, the product of TL, meant Hook’s curse was broken. Emma’s magic only disappeared temporarily because Hook’s curse was designed to take away her magic so the curse and her TL magic counteracted each other but eventually the TL magic won out.
The only thing I can liken it to is a boiling hot saucepan being run under the cold tap to cool it down. When the first bit of cold water (Emma’s magic) hits the saucepan (Hook’s curse), it becomes steam, suggesting the saucepan is beating the water. However, the water eventually wins and cools the saucepan down. The steam was the water and heat meeting and counteracting each other. The water was still working to cool the saucepan down even though it would appear that the heat in the saucepan was beating the water. Does that make sense?
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixDoes that make sense?
Scarily enough, yeah, it does (grin)
To quote our beloved Captain and Lovely Lady *It’s complicated*
(just keep onnnnn kissin! Everyone!)
***Always in search of a good flock***
I think if we get a TLK between Captain Swan this season, it’ll be a season finale thing, or a few episodes before it.
Winter finale still feels too soon for some reason, probably because the way time has passed in Storybrooke since Emma broke the curse (season 1 finale), it’s moved slower. We were only in Neverland for a week, then back in Storybrooke for about two days before Pan’s curse took effect and Emma and Henry had to leave.
So if that time pacing continues in season four, it’s too soon for a TLK in the winter finale. I’ve also noticed, true love’s kiss doesn’t happen a lot per season. In real-time anyway. I’d qualify Henry and Emma’s true love’s kiss in the season one finale as the only true love’s kiss that happened in real-time that season.
But who knows, we might have two? 😉 Outlaw Queen has to share a TLK kiss together at some point in order to solidify that they are indeed more than soulmates. But Robin needs to be cursed somehow.
And if the spoiler-speculation is right about Killian’shand being cursed TLK might break that curse. Or maybe he gets frozen somehow and only TLK can thaw him out. Han Solo was frozen in carbonite and Princess freed him from that and CS have already have been compared to Han & Leia, and Adam and Eddy are big Star Wars fans.
I’m in the camp that the m2m-resusc wasn’t TLK. There didn’t need to be one there (and tbh why would they slip something so important in there when there was already so much going on?) Hook’s lips were cursed, Emma touched said lips with her lips, his curse broke when it was enacted on Emma to take her magic. Zelena died, all her spells were undone (ie flying monkeys turning back into people, Emma’s magic returning) Emma didn’t want her magic to return so believed it didn’t. Therefore Hook just needed to get her to believe in herself for her magic to manifest again. No TLK req’d.
I really do like the cursed hand theory. Don’t they say the left hand is always the evil one? I seem to remember the word ‘sinister’ has something to do with the left.
If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
TLK…dunno, but I am certainly not adverse to having them try a few hundred times (grin) IF the “kiss of life” wasn’t already the “one”.
TLK really doesn’t affect me as much. Honestly, now that I give it a moment’s thought, I don’t put much stock in definitive kisses. I kind of embrace all off them into one big telling/sharing/soul revealing/tactile /magical/ complex acceptance of “being”.
ONCE’s appeal to me is a much bigger mind universe of here, now, then, before, after, what if…the voyeuristic appeal of seeing someone else’s brain fantasy in script form. Anything can and will happen and I just go with the flow of being out of control about the whole deal!
moving on from Sunday existentialist pontificating …(la la la)
Jamie and Clare…I have a date with them this evening, surayya! And I could certainly chime in on The Outlander thread now n then
Ancestorally being a good Scot (Clan Sutherland!) I get verra easily lost in the wondrous highlands for hours after watching wee lass Gabaldon’s world come to the small (Kindle Fire) screen
Lady, I concur! There is not much that is healthy about the relentless obsession of dead-fictional character agony. Wrapped up in? Well perhaps more Warped than wrapped. Or wrapped too tight or…well. It is an embarrassing downer part of the fandom at this point.
In some form or another, almost every fandom has it’s …mucking fuglies…as we used to call them long long ago in a fandom far far away
“Are you not entertained?? ARE you NOT ENTERTAINED?”
…no, Maximus, (grin and a gladiatorial wink) we are mighty bored by it all at this point.
I get you on the TLK thing- When Emma kissed Graham, he got his memories back- so she broke the curse on him & yet there was no ‘whoosh of rainbow light’ & every other instance of actual curse breakage has been with TLK & had the ‘rainbow whoosh’ effect …. including when Emma kissed Killian, so I’m still on the fence- did she really loose her magic or not. It is still debatable & it wouldnt surprise me if that ‘whoosh’ was put there as a tease, that’ll pay off later down the track when/if we get a cannon TLK.
Yay, will be nice to talk about something with no sour grapes attached to it, will see you in that thread later on 😀
I think it’s time for more pretties as a pick me up 😉
Captain Swan aka i’m jealous of you doing nothing with no one
Colin looking back on S3 with IGN:
IGN: Hook had a really interesting arc last season and had to walk a better path because of things that happened. What do you think were some of the pivotal moments that helped push him towards the right side?
Colin O’Donoghue: Well, I think it’s his relationship with Emma. That developed quite a lot and halfway through the season, he realized that the quest for revenge that he’d been on for so long wasn’t really doing much for him. He believed that he could love again when he met Emma and got to know her. He decided to allow himself to feel again, and I think that’s really what it all came down to – this idea that he’d spent hundreds of years living with hatred and revenge in his heart for the death of Milah and having met Emma he sort of realized ‘Oh my god, I can actually feel for somebody again.’
IGN: Do you think because he opened his heart again that love helped him better deal with the death of Bae?
O’Donoghue: Yeah. You see toward the end of Season 3 when Hook had Bae on the ship, he truly would have given up everything — a life of piracy and all that kind of stuff — to look after this child who was the son of the woman he loved most in the world before he met Emma. He would have given everything up for him. When he comes across Neal as a rival suitor, his quest to get Emma’s heart sort of blinds him to the fact that this is the same boy that he was about to open up to, to become like a surrogate father for. Towards the end he realizes that and realizes that there’s more to life than being so blinded by one thing and one quest and he realizes, again, that he could have an open heart for somebody that he needs to care for.
IGN: Will we see him be able to expand those feelings and act fatherly towards Henry in Season 4?
O’Donoghue: I mean, towards the end of Season 3 you kind of see a little bit of that, where he decides to tell Henry snippets of who Neal was and he sort of reveals a bit about his relationship with Henry’s father. We’re early on in [filming] Season 4, but you’ll definitely see elements of that again
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