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Hey shipmates did you all hear that? It sounded like another argument from Hook haters just crashed & burned?
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I feel like, if we re-watched Tallahassee now, after seeing all this wonderful development between Captain Swan and then compare why Emma is the way she is and why her and Neal fell apart, Captain Swan make more sense now as True Loves.
It goes back to that idea, that there’s a true love for you at every stage of your life. Emma now is not the same Emma she was then in Tallahassee, in the flashbacks. Emma then was hopeful for a home and love but more importantly, a home. She strongly believed in the dream for Tallahassee as their home (it seriously could have been anywhere as long as her and Neal were together). And then Neal left her and Emma ended up in jail and she became the pessimistic Emma we saw in the pilot.
Emma now, is still a bit jaded but she also knows that there a lot of people who love her. And a part of still believes in that dream for Tallahassee but thinks its’ still out of reach because of who she is, the savior and product of true love. But Emma is taking baby steps towards accepting love in her life. She trusts Hook look after Henry and also trusts him to tell her the truth, even when it’s not what she wants to hear. One day soon maybe even next episode Emma is going to steadily let love back into her life because she, like her mom, value action more than words.
It’s going to mean something to her once she finds out what Hook was up to in the lost year without her. It’s going to make seeing him again in The New York Serenade, more meaningful because he didn’t just come back so she could help save her family, but he came back for HER! And he’s the only man who’s done that. Hook’s actions will be incredibly meaningful to Emma once it comes out, just like how JMo expressed how meaningful it was that Hook genuinely wanted to help in 3A.
The writing of this ‘ship, really when you think about, in relation to SwanFire, it’s perfect because we understand where the failures were and what Emma needs now from her true love.
You summed it up perfectly rumplegoldfan. I was also getting bored for awhile… I started watching in fast forward and when i had time. Hook showed up and I was sucked right back in. But when the show wasnt thrilling me, I took a step back. They write… I watch. That’s the dynamic here… not I dictate… they write.
agreed KJ – While Hook is by far my favorite ( yes, over Emma ), I too believe that this is her story. As long as she doesnt die, I guess everything else is fair game. If Hook was the one to die, I admit I would be pretty bummed and while i would probably continue to watch, it would not be with the enthusiasm ( hell, lets call a spade a spade : the obsession ) that I do now. lol But this is Emma’s story and I think a lot of the posts are right… just because you had a hardship, even a devastating one, does not mean that there is no happy ending for you. You dont roll over die, you dont give up…
@KillianJones which one???
lol well there’s some people who thought Hook go around womanizing during the year away from Emma.
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I actually empathize with Neal’s fans. I know how I’d feel if it were Hook, who died. I’m not saying whether they are right or wrong, but for them, Neal was why they watched the show. Love it or hate it, television production is not in business for itself. Sponsors like to advertize on shows people watch (and they must love Once a lot, because boy, are there commercials 😉 ).
Let’s flip the coin. If Hook died would kill the show? I don’t know. The show doesn’t revolve around him, but I can’t see his death being productive, given his high popularity (Hook draws a crowd), and don’t know how anybody else could ever equal or surpass the weight of “Captain Hook” (because great as Emma is, she can’t do it herself). As for me; myself; and I, Hook is why I watch. I probably wouldn’t watch if Hook were killed off. Not for any revenge against ABC , A&E, or the writers, but because for me, there’d just be nothing to see, so why would I watch? If Hook died, it’d take the wind out of my sails (pun intended 😉 )
I’d be stinking mad if it was my favorite, and would probably be one of many who’d have lots of foaming at the mouth, and vitreol over it. Let’s not judge the Neal fans. I guess this is why I understand where Neal fans are coming from. It could have just as easily been Hook.
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I am reading through posts quickly.
Who said they think a big part of the problem is that SF folks didn’t prepare themselves for the fact that Neal was going to die?? I agree. Unless they were secretly preparing themselves, there was a lot of talk going around that Neal wasn’t dying and they were continuing to theorize about SF were True Love and minute SF details of how S3B was going to end.
I admit that as far as I could see the writing was on the wall for Neal, both on the show as well as with BTS info, but I had also mentally prepared myself for the chance that we were all completely wrong and they could be killing off Hook instead. I reminded myself how I originally fell in love with Rumbelle and how OQ was starting to look pretty darn appealing. And most of all I reminded myself that I originally loved the show before I shipped anyone. So if Hook was killed off I knew I would be disappointed but I also knew that I would still be able to find things I enjoyed on the show. But I DID mentally prepare myself for the possibility that it could be Hook and do admit to breathing a bit of a sigh of relief when Neal died and it wasn’t Hook – not that I was wanting ANY character to die.
But, seriously. For people’s sanity. Take a break. Netflix the heck out of some other show for awhile. Find some other couple on another show to ship like mad so it won’t be as painful to come back and watch. Then maybe you will find that you can enjoy the show all over again.
You know something that just occurred to me?
Killian is Emma’s best friend.
Emma doesn’t have friends. She moved from place to place her entire life. From foster home to foster home as a child and teenager. Then she moved from city to city and lived on her own as an adult. Mary Margaret was the closest thing to a friend she ever had but then she broke the curse and MM tried going all Mommy Snow on her and ruined the close “friendly” relationship they had.
Neal was never back long enough without “dying” for her to really establish any kind of relationship with him.
In her “fake” year I have the impression that Emma and Henry were very close but that Emma was very busy with work and being a mom, and her left over time was dating Walsh – which didn’t feel like a “deep” relationship to me.
The one person who she is consistently “with” – even if it’s a pattern of being flirty and then getting mad/annoyed/frustrated/scared/running away and coming back again – is Killian. And he has become the one person she listens too, looks to for advice, trusts her son with, shows her emotions too, etc. It might be because she doesn’t have many, but it doesn’t change the fact that Killian is Emma’s best friend.
My mom once asked me when I was a just a bit older than Emma and divorced from my first husband who my best friend was, since I lived far away from all my high school and college friends. When I thought about it I realized that my best friend was this guy I worked with even though it had never really occurred to me before. We worked together a lot on projects so we knew each other really well, he knew my capabilities and believed that I was really good at things, we joked around and had fun together, we could tell when we were each having a bad day and needing to just let the other person have space. We just kind of naturally ended up together in meetings and at conferences, etc. but I had never really considered that he was my best friend.
Then one day I did. Oh yeah, I ended up marrying my best friend.
I wrote a post about this. I feel part of the problem with Neal’s death for SwanFire and Neal fans, is that they never fully prepared themselves for the possibility that the death would be him.
I think the problem is that many viewers still think that SF was TL and that if half of a TL couple died – there is no happy ending for the other. Since they cannot get past that, they will have a hard time enjoying the current story
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