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The Captain Swan thread!

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  • April 28, 2014 at 12:29 pm #264621
    emmajones
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    How Hook was so sure that Emma is his TL isn’t even answered yet or how he was able to cross realms when Regina even said there was no other way…. argh so confused 🙁

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    April 28, 2014 at 12:36 pm #264625
    killianhookfan
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    I saw something on tumblr that showed the bottle of potion that Neal sent to Hook vs. the bottle of potion Hook gave to Emma.  They are NOT the same.  Knowing this show it could just be a continuity error OR it could clear up a LOT!

    What if Neal sent the potion to Hook so that HE could get his memories back to get to Emma?    Hook told Emma that he could only get enough ingredients together for ONE dose of memory potion AND he told everyone that he received a bottle of memory potion along with a note from a bird.  He NEVER said he was talking about the SAME bottle of memory potion.

    So it is possible that Hook came to SB along with everyone else via the dark curse but with his memories intact and still had the Jolly Roger.  Then because the JR is enchanted and can travel between realms he was able to trade it somewhere for the ingredients of the OTHER bottle of memory potion and a way to get to Emma in NY.

    April 28, 2014 at 12:51 pm #264629
    lumee23
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    @rumplegoldfan – I saw that theory on tumblr as well. The bottles are definitely different but whether or not that is on purpose or a mistake is definitely questionable. I have issues that are very opposing.

    With Regina’s comments about the kingdom being separated as the price for ripping up the original curse how did Hook get out/escape Snowing’s casting of the curse? I always assumed he was outside of the realm at the time of the cursing but now I am not sure if that was possible? Only thing I could think of is that technically he was never really cursed and could therefore somehow get around that.

    On the other hand if he was still in the realm, got cursed and drank the potion to remember how did he leave Storybrooke? I thought that was part of the curse that you couldn’t leave? Unless that was a Regina specific thing and that is why Zelena has monkeys guarding the borders because they technically can leave. Or maybe Hook’s ship makes him immune to the can’t leave Storybrooke thing. It would explain though how Zelena/Walsh knew about him and the potion in NYC if he was cursed originally with everyone else.

    Overall I like that theory about Hook being cursed too. It is a nice twist. Not sure though how that still fits in the timeline regarding the short time between Hook receiving the potion/the curse being cast and Hook getting to NYC and finding Emma. I would think that it would have been harder for him to get another memory potion than it would be to use his ship (which was already established as being made from enchanted wood) to make a portal somehow. Unless in that huge block of time that is still unaccounted for he was already doing his own thing to get a memory potion (JR trade?) so he had two and then somehow got to NYC from Storybrooke without Zelena’s monkeys getting him.

    A&E are certainly good at creating mystery. The only thing I am really convinced of is that Hook traded/gave up the JR for SOMETHING in order to get to Emma or help her remember.

    April 28, 2014 at 2:12 pm #264657
    obisgirl
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    I don’t really understand how the ratings system works but…there’s updated ratings for The Jolly Roger and it looks good!

    Live+ 7 Days numbers for episode 317 “The Jolly Roger”
    Original Demo: 2.0
    Live +7: 3.2
    Increase: 60%

    http://www.spoilertv.com/2014/04/live7-dvr-ratings-week-29-7th-april.html

    To compare, Hook’s last centric episode this season ‘Good Form’

    ‘GOOD FORM’ – LIVE +7 ADJUSTED RATINGS
    Initial Ratings: 2.2 in demos
    Live + 7 Adjusted Ratings: 3.4
    That’s a 1.2 increase in points / 55%

    And I’ll be watching the episode tomorrow 🙂

    April 28, 2014 at 3:47 pm #264684
    lumee23
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    April 28, 2014 at 3:57 pm #264688
    PriceofMagic
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    Ok. Ask colin tomorrow at 5pm Irish time.

    — Colin o'donoghue (@colinodonoghue1) April 28, 2014

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
    April 28, 2014 at 4:02 pm #264693
    obisgirl
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    Jane’s original tweet:

    @tasoula_k no. They don't know.

    — Jane Espenson (@JaneEspenson) April 28, 2014

    Irish time?!  Colin, Colin, not all of us live in Ireland or even understand timezones.  All I know is East Coast, because I live on the East Coast in the US.

    April 28, 2014 at 4:05 pm #264697
    lumee23
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    I think 5pm Irish time is Noon EST if timezone calculator is correct.

    April 28, 2014 at 4:13 pm #264701
    Sarah_TN
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    Colin’s #askcolin: That’s 12 noon EST, or 9am PST

    My tumblr page is http://cs-in-tn.tumblr.com/

    April 28, 2014 at 4:16 pm #264702
    PriceofMagic
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    I think Emma was justified in saying that she couldn’t trust Hook anymore. Hook tried to help Henry run away from Emma. Whilst in Hook’s mind he was doing it with the best of intentions (help Henry get to New York and out of Zelena’s potential grasp), at the same time what he was doing was undermining Emma. Hook did not consult Emma on getting Henry out of Storybrooke, he was just going to take him (or rather palm him off on Smee which implied Hook wasn’t going to be there to ensure Henry got out of Storybrooke safely, he was relying on Smee).

    By just taking him without asking, to Emma, Henry would’ve just disappeared on her in a town where there is an evil witch running round controlling the dark one. To have your child suddenly disappear on you to who knows where is every parents worse nightmare, made even worse when there is an ever present danger lurking waiting to strike.

    Emma has trusted Hook with Henry in the past, he was her first port of call when she needed someone to look after Henry, but what he did in this episode would’ve made anyone go “I can’t trust this person with my child anymore” so Emma was justified in saying what she did.

    Snowing were unfair to Hook. Their basis of no longer trusting him were because they didn’t send him the message. Hook only said he assumed the message was from them because it came attached to a bird. Charming even said that it sounded like something Snow would do, so their jumping on the “I can’t trust you” bandwagon was out of order.

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
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