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@RumplesGirl wrote:
Why would Tamara/Greg go to NL, if most of you think she is really from FL? These last two Episodes is the background on Hook, and Bae’s past.
I do think Tamara’s parents are from the the EF, but you raise a good point. I don’t know why she would want to go to NL unless she knows or discovers that FTL is under siege from the Ogres and decides that she can have magic in other lands too. Or maybe her mission is more specific, like to find Pan.
In another thread just before, I mentioned that if Robin and Marian do end up being Tamara’s parents, perhaps she’s been collecting magic to try and get back to FTL to find her father. This would make her motivations the same as Greg’s – locating a long lost father in a magical place – and could explain how they met and began working together. If so, I would imagine that any portal Tamara jumps into would take her to wherever she believes her father to be, and from what we’ve seen of Robin Hood, he lived in FTL.
[adrotate group="5"]@BeastWhisperer wrote:
Speaking purely as someone who does ship Hook and Regina, their guardedness about flirting with each other is one of the reasons I like it. This is just my personal take on the characters, but I’ve always had the feeling that because both characters are still devoted to their dead lovers that neither will actually let themselves get too flirty or open around someone who could actually touch their heart or get too close. Regina had her “whatever you want to call it” with Graham for years, but she made sure he didn’t have his heart so he couldn’t feel anything and neither would she. Her crushing his heart was all about hurt pride. Hook flirts with most people, but he does it in a very off-putting fashion, like flirting with both a mother and a daughter or saying something outright crude. As a result the women tend to just roll their eyes at him instead of going for it. It’s like a self-defense mechanism to keep emotional attachments out.
I find Hook and Regina’s interactions to be different from their interactions with their other potential romantic interests, and that’s one of the things I dig about the potential between them. Regina knows full out that Hook suffered the same loss of a true love that she did and even by the same means of death. They knowingly and unknowingly make comments that dance around the other’s heartbreak. I’d love to know how much Hook overheard of Regina’s farewell to Cora after he “killed” her. I don’t think he knows the details, but he might have heard enough to suspect something. They’re like a mirror to each other, and sensing that could certainly make them more guarded about revealing themselves. It’s safe to flirt with someone else, but there are some people who, if you go there, can only be a real connection. That’s how I view these two.
That’s a really interesting analysis of Regina and Hook. I can see why you see potential for them. At the end of the day though, I think that the fact that they’re both damaged in exactly the same way means that they couldn’t function well together in the long term. I think each of them needs someone with different, more stable traits, to balance out their own personal issues.
She tells him her plan about leaving SB with Hook and Henry, and she explains that there is some kind of mechanism in the curse that will destroy the town if she leaves. That means his crocodile will be destroyed with everyone else left behind. Henry calling her a villain might give Regina pause though, and she decides to back out of the plan…. thus she would have betrayed Hook by doing the right thing for once.
This sounds about right to me. I can see Hook listening to the cases of both Regina and GOAT, and realising that they can both offer dead Crocodile in different ways, so he’ll play along with them both to see which plan will actually pan out. I would hope that Regina would back down from her plan after Henry disapproves, which would leave Hook with only the GOAT option.
Wonder what the EvilRegals will think of Regina doing this? On the one hand, Regina is at her most fabulous when she’s evil. But on the other hand, how can you argue that she loves Henry, (which EvilRegals insist on) when she’s straight up telling him that she’s happy to kill everyone he loves, just to get him back?
In #2, is random fisherman just there randomly as set dressing? At the start, he’s just sitting there, but after the clip abruptly ends, it freezes on a shot of him walking, which means he’s actually gonna do something. I’m thinking he may be Regina, (especially considering we’ll be seeing her disguising herself as someone else to get close to Snow in the flashbacks).
In #3, I love that Emma is onto Tamara, but Snow’s advice to not jump to conclusions and make public declarations about it was wise. Methinks Emma doth protest too much about having no residual feelings for Neal.
Having now seen the sneak peek of the conversation Regina has with Henry, I’m guessing the spell is her wiping that conversation from his memory, coz that’s really not something she would want him telling to the Charmings. 😕
If Neal still has the book, I’m sure Tamara’s been reading it under the guise of being willing to learn about where he came from. But she’s actually been researching who everyone in town is.
Oh, Regina! *head desk*
@LaurieAnne wrote:
Wow, way to blow up that redemption arc. “They’ll die” just so matter of factly. Yes, she is holding the beans she picked in 2×19. Anton said the beans weren’t ready to be harvested yet. Does that mean they can’t open a portal until they are ready? I am betting that Anton is the only one who knows when that is, so he is going to be involved somehow. Unless Regina puts one of her bugs in the bean fields.
I will laugh if Regina tries to use those beans in her hand and they don’t work.
Keb, I just loaded your timeline and my eyes bugged out. 😯 Once they’re back in their sockets, I’ll have a close look at all the details. Impressive job!
@obisgirl wrote:
if there's more rumbelle in the finale, than I would say that's what Robin Hood would be tied too. Not anything to do with Tamara and what she's doing.
Thing is though, Rumple appeared to be done with Robin after the events of Lacey. Belle convinced him to let them go, and he did, so while it may be in the back of his mind that he wants that wand back some day, as long as they're exploring Rumbelle in FTL, I can't see Rumple actually initiating more of that storyline by going after Robin again.
So if Robin's gonna be involved in the final eps, it will have to elaborate more on his own story. And given that Robin Hood is so iconic, I'm sure they've come up with a specific story for him. Given that they made the departure from the traditional Robin Hood story and showed Marian as being pregnant, they must be planning on elaborating more on that. If they just needed some pregnant chick so that Rumple would have an attack of the guilts and not leave the unborn child fatherless, they could have made the pregnant chick anyone. But they chose to put Maid Marian specifically in that position. There must be a reason.
Meanwhile, we have Tamara, a new character that they're going to elaborate on more in the final few episodes. If they're gonna show her history and motivations, and Robin's history too, then it would make sense if they're intertwined, otherwise they'd have double the amount of separate stories to tell in not many episodes.
Also, if Tamara's deal is that she's trying to find her long lost father, Robin Hood, and that's why she's been collecting magic, so she can find a way back to FTL where she believes her father still is, that potentially explains how she met up with Greg, who has been searching for his own father in some mystery, magical town.
That's what keeps me from ruling out Tamara being the child of Robin and Marian, even if I'm not 100% convinced of it just yet. I can just see lots of potential for them to tie things together really nicely in the space of just a few episodes if it's the case.
@KFChimera wrote:
@Phee wrote:
Anyway, like I said, I’m not 100% behind my own theory yet, not even 100% sure if that unborn baby is Tamara. But those are my current ponderings on how Robin knew about the wand and where to get it and how to use it…coz it belonged to his mother in law.
At this point, any theory we create is more likley to be wrong than right because we have so few pieces. Still a lot of fun to mull over!
For sure. That’s why I love spoilers so much, because it’s like discovering more clues to a mystery, and playing detective and trying to figure out how they’ll fit together is half the fun of this show for me. Even if I’m wrong 80% of the time. 😛
I like the idea that a fairy fell in love –because I want the story to return to the point that BF made that fairies cannot love. I also want there to be more to Rumpel’s killing of the FGM than he just needed her wand and just generally hated fairies, and considered them kill-on-sight material. New story developments could layer in some new meaning to those scenes.
This is why I went off on that tangent with my theory. Honestly, Dreamy is one of my least fave episodes, but if it was foreshadowing of some larger storyline that involved an incident like a high ranking fairy having actually defected from the ranks because of falling in love, that would instantly improve Dreamy for me. And it would also add more gravity to Price of Gold, (an ep that introduced us to Cinderella, who had no long lasting significance for the show), if it turns out there’s a specific reason for the FGM explosion.
We saw that FGM for all of 3 seconds in the 4th ep of season 1. Now we’re at the tail end of season 2 and it looks like her wand has popped up again, and therefore, that character we only saw for 3 seconds may actually end up being significant. That possibility is really cool, so I hope it does pay off in some interesting way.
@Clessidor wrote:
1.How did he get the bow?
The bow is defininitely magical. It always hit it’s target. Robin Hood himself is not a magical Character. So he get the bow somewhere from. Maybe he stole it or maybe someone give it to him.
Does anyone know, if a bow which always hit it’s target is somewhere mentioned in myths or folklore. Well I’m not sure. But I think that I read once somewhere that the bow of the greek god Apollon always hit it’s target, but I’m not sure where and I don’t know if it’s true or if someone just added it to the myth.
So the bow can also be just some magical item which exist in enchanted forest.I’m still suspecting the bow and arrows may have originally belonged to Cupid. The bow was strung with gold, and the arrows are gold, and Cupid shot gold tipped arrows.
2.How did he know that the wand he need to heal his wife was in Rumplestilskin’s castle and why did he know how to use it?
In the midst of all the debates about timelines of events and how it relates to whether or not that can be the same wand that we saw Rumple take from the fairy godmother (FGM) when he exploded her, I’ve concocted a bit of a theory. Not totally convinced of it all yet, but FWIW…
FGM fell in love with a human, but we know that fairies aren’t allowed to fall in love…
FGM made a deal with Rumple for him to make her human, and as payment, she had to give him her wand…
Now human FGM married the man she’d fallen in love with, and they had a daughter, named Marian…
Marian grew up, met Robin, and became deathly ill while she was pregnant…
In desperate need of a way to save her daughter, and her unborn grandchild, FGM told Robin that he had to steal her wand back from Rumple…
Robin steals the wand, and uses it to heal Marian…
With her wand back FGM reverts back to being her fairy self…
Thinking that Robin, Marian, and the unborn baby are in danger from Rumple coming after them, FGM uses her newly returned powers to send them to another world, (this fits with the theories of Tamara being the child, who was born in our world)…
FGM then goes into hiding herself, thinking that Rumple will be after her, because she went back on a deal with him…
During his dealings with King George, Rumple says that he needs information on a hard to find FGM…
FGM comes out of hiding to help Cinderella, gets exploded, and Rumple takes the wand back.Anyway, like I said, I’m not 100% behind my own theory yet, not even 100% sure if that unborn baby is Tamara. But those are my current ponderings on how Robin knew about the wand and where to get it and how to use it…coz it belonged to his mother in law.
