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@RumplesGirl wrote:
Oh right! I forgot about the Tink confirmation! So then the little blonde girl (Laine) must be Tink and the Freya must be playing Ariel (because I refuse to believe anything else at this point!)
I am SO ready for Ariel.
The more I’ve thought about it, the more convinced I’ve become that Freya will be Ariel. Though Eddy’s, “Ariel could potentially be a Season Three,” almost throws that off, but he may simply mean that we won’t see her as a mermaid until season 3, even if we see her in human form in season 2. Perhaps?
Anyway, I’ve spent so much time pondering my headcanon for Ariel, (FWIW, I’ve decided that if she has an alternate persona name, it should be Pearl) that I NEED the actual canon STAT to save my sanity.
[adrotate group="5"]Was about to post the screencap that showed the bright blue hilt, but when I went to preview my post, Surayya had just beaten me to it.
Also I wanted to share a picture of my timeline & ask if any of you have a timeline of your own (right now it’s missing the Lacey fairy tail part I haven’t re watch the episode) 🙂
I am in awe of this. You’re a hero for even attempting it!
@KFChimera wrote:
So I’m imagining that he cut a deal with the fairy godmother (something against fairy godmother code probably!) to get her wand. She in turn recruited Robin to steal it back for her, then that is why we see him feel justified in killing her when she’s talking to Cinderella. Otherwise his killing of the Fairy God Mother (FGM) just seemed a little more openly evil than his normal mode of operating as a trickster. Then it also explains later on his comment to Regina that no one would miss the FGM whose wand he is using. None of the fairies would miss the FGM because she cut a deal with Rumpel for something a fairy wasn’t supposed to do. Maybe that “something” was a someone–as people are speculating, the tie to Marian or Tamara.
So that’s my spin on the theories people are tossing around that the FGM was tied to Marian /Tamara and it was her wand and why Rumpel had it, then lost it, then got it again.
Yes, I like this!
A thought just came to me, I wonder if the deal that saw him originally get the wand could have had something to do with the FGM wanting to become human, perhaps because she’d fallen in love? That’s a deal that would require her to give up her wand, and also something she’d be looked down on for by other fairies. (Also, because I watched The Little Mermaid for the first time in years the other day, I totally connected the tongue stealing to that, and now this idea of Rumple having made a fairy into a human to be with a man she’d fallen in love with…don’t mind me, I’m seeing potential Ariel anvils dropping everywhere.)
So then we have a FormerFGM who had a baby with the man she became human for. Let’s call this baby…Marian. Marian grows up, falls in love with Robin, and when Marian is pregnant, she becomes deathly ill. The only thing that will cure her is fairy magic. So in order to save the life of her daughter, and unborn grandchild, FormerFGM tells Robin to go and steal back her wand from Rumple. Once she has her wand back, FormerFGM reverts to her FGM form, which is how we see her when Rumple explodes her and steals the wand back again.
@KFChimera wrote:
HappyEndings wrote:
The deal was with King George, David for the Fairy which I think he added to his curse. Why would he have to ask where the Fairy was if he had dealings with her beforeWell just because he had dealed with her, doesn’t mean he necessarily knew where she was later on, especially if she had magic to actively hide from him.
Yes, if FGM had double crossed Rumple by sending Robin to steal back her wand, if she was smart, she’d have gone into hiding after that, knowing that Rumple would want to come after her. Also, going along with the theory I just proposed, if Rumple was going to also be after Robin, Marian, and the unborn baby, perhaps the newly reinstated FGM used her magic to send them somewhere safe…like a land without magic. Perhaps?
Haven’t checked the other thread yet today, but I was almost scared to click on this one to see how far the debate has migrated to the open forum. 😛
If it is indeed the same wand, (and it does look identical), I think Rumple has to have stolen it two separate times, otherwise the timeline won’t work.
Assuming Cinderella and Thomas were married soon after they met, (which is a safe bet, because FTL courtships and engagements don’t typically last for years), if Rumple only stole the wand that one time, there’s no way that Belle could have been imprisoned by Regina for any great length of time, (certainly not the speculated 3.5 years), because she was at Rumple’s place when he had the wand that we saw him steal on the day that Cinderella and Thomas met, which was maybe a year at most before Curse Day.
If Rumple only had that wand in his possession one time, that means he didn’t meet Belle until after he met Cinderella, which doesn’t work…
After leaving Rumple, Belle met Dreamy…
Snow never knew Dreamy, she only met him once he was Grumpy…
Snow was about 4 weeks pregnant at Cinderella’s wedding (per a tweet from Adam), so that wedding was only about 8 months before curse day…So all the stuff with Snowing meeting, being separated, coming back together, and getting married, all happened before Rumple stole the wand on the day he met Cinderella. And because Snow knew Grumpy as Grumpy, the Snowing drama came after Belle had left Rumple and met Dreamy.
If, as RumplesGirl suggests, Rumple originally stole the wand some years earlier, then the fairy godmother sent Robin to steal it back, then Rumple stole it again, (this time blowing up the fairy godmother to ensure she couldn’t steal it back from him again), that pretty much solves any timeline issues and confusion. So that’s what I’m sticking with.
@Vilya wrote:
Least favorite- Besides him catching Lacey with Keith (I could have puked) The curtains were open….didn’t she open them when in her blue dress…what happened…now the whole time line is making my head hurt.
Yes, that was a major oversight by the CGI department, because he had those curtains nailed shut until Belle came along in her blue dress to symbolically tear them down and let the light in, and that didn’t happen until after Lacey in the timeline.
I’m on board with the idea that Rumple had the wand in his possession at two separate times, because believing this makes my head hurt less.
@steliokontos1 wrote:
Just throwing this out there but does anybody else think Lacey set that whole thing up? Like she made out with Keith to get Rumple mad and see if that would bring out that dark side she kept hearing about?
Hmmm, dunno I’d go so far as to say it was a setup to see what Rumple would do, because I’m not sure she’s interested enough in him to go to such lengths. But I’ll bet she got Keith’s number when he tried to pick her up at The Rabbit Hole, and when she ditched Rumple at Granny’s and was all dressed up with nowhere to go, she gave him a call.
@Schmacky wrote:
You know the way I took the Emma/Neal scene and then the Tamara/Greg/Hook scene was quasi similar to what people are saying (placement was done purposefully) but instead of it focusing on Hook, it’s a focus on Tamara/Greg.
Neal said that Emma shouldn’t worry and she doesn’t stop until she finds what she’s looking for. What were they talking about? Tamara and Greg basically. Not that they knew they were talking about them, but the threat August spoke of. The threat was Tamara. And Neal says to Emma, she won’t stop until she finds it (the threat)… then it cuts to Tamara and Greg (the threats). To me, that placement was very intentional but it had nothing to do with Hook.
The editing of those two scenes was basically saying, ‘Emma is going to find out who the threat is and in case you guys forgot, here is Tamara the bad girl and just so you’re 100% sure she’s a bad guy, here’s a tied up guy they’re going to do what knows what with.”
Very true! And the sooner Emma gets a clue about Tamara the better.
Speaking of Tamara, one of my least fave things is any time GOAT get kissy. Don’t know if it’s just because the character of Tamara makes my skin crawl, but GOAT are a chemistry free zone IMO, and seeing them kiss just feels all kinds of wrong.
@AngieBelle wrote:
Marian looks quite light skinned to me- olive toned, but still light. Both Robin Hood and Marian appear way too light to produce a child as dark skinned as Tamara in my opinion. Not to mention, I don’t like the idea of these two good characters producing such a diabolical offspring.
Here are some pics of the actress who played her: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1682392/mediaindex
Can’t find much info on her really, but apparently her dad is from Belize, and her mum is British, (which is a pretty vague description, because Brits can look like anything). Her skin tone isn’t as dark as Sonequa’s, but I do think there’s a facial similarity. Even if that unborn baby isn’t Tamara, I still wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a family connection in there somewhere.@RumplesGirl wrote:
We know that on the day Charming wakes up Snow, Rumple has already lost Belle because he tells Charming that his true love his dead.
Just wondered if perhaps he could have been referring to Milah as opposed to Belle there, but “a brief flicker of light amidst an ocean of darkness,” sounds more like Belle. And he likely wouldn’t have referred to Cora as being dead. So yes, that confuses matters again if he was indeed talking about having lost Belle on the day that Charming woke Snow, which likely happened before he stole the wand from the fairy godmother, because that means he didn’t have the wand while Belle was with him.
My head hurts.
I had a coffee just before, but now feel the need for something stronger.
