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@LaurieAnne wrote:
Casting brilliance – Marian as an African-American, which only makes us speculate all the more that she has a connection to Tamara.
For real! Either they’re trying to indicate something specific with that casting, or they’re just trying to mess with our heads. They didn’t just randomly make that departure from the traditional depiction of Marian though.
@SpinningGold wrote:
But I’m gonna lay a parallel to Emma or rather, her story. What if Tamara’s is the same? She got send here as a baby without her parents to have a chance at life. Look at how close Emma got to becoming some kinda little thug, she was stealing cars, shoplifting… it could have easily gone the other way, and she would have been no different than Tamara, looking out for number one.
That would be really interesting if they go that route, sort of making Emma and Tamara different sides of the same coin. Adds a little extra something to the dynamic of Neal being stuck between them, too. These two thieving women he’s been involved with, who both started out their lives in the same way, in the same land he came from.
Robin and Marian are being chased by someone else already, someone evil. Marian was poisoned. Robin has a magic bow. Now Rumple is not gonna hurt them anymore. Belle made sure of that, and I have fate in her. So who is after them? Who is out to hurt them, and make sure Tamara will never get born? Which he/she fails at… but maybe not her parents.
I do hope we get to find out how Marian got so sick. Would be a bit disappointing if she just innocently caught the plague. Someone trying to prevent her from giving birth for some reason would be much more fun.
[adrotate group="5"]Could Henry be immune to certain types of magic, like his bio mother is? I know he’s got that blank expression in the half second clip when it happens, but that could be deceptive, and maybe that’s when he calls her evil, right after she tries the spell on him and it fails. Perhaps?
Those green screen pics are curious, but I’m not gonna automatically assume that they’re in FTL. There are underground cave areas in SB. I’m guessing JMo shot on a green screen when she did the underground stuff with Maleficent in Land Without Magic, and there’s a shot from that scene in the promo for The Evil Queen, so perhaps that’s where Hook and Regina are?
Curious indeed. When they were in The Rabbit Hole, didn’t Lacey tell him to meet her at Granny’s? And that’s the date where she was wearing that dress. Doesn’t seem to fit. Unless they went there for a celebratory drink after Rumple beat up Keith, and the scene ended up getting cut?
@Surayya wrote:
I need clarification on what these dates are based on- just Belles tally marks, because if they represent days there’d 364 for every yr she’d spent there- which would look like HEAPS on a wall & I didn’t see a cap with that many in it 😕
Daniel counted the marks on the wall. Here are the show notes for Queen of Hearts with the screencap of Belle’s room that has his tally count all over it:
https://oncepodcast.com/once-upon-a-time-podcast-068-queen-of-hearts-discussion-and-theories/@RumplesGirl wrote:
LOL. When in doubt: go to the source. I just tweeted Adam. Maybe I’ll get lucky and he’ll respond?
Hope he responds, because methinks that’s the only way this debate can be resolved!
It could be that certain ranks within the fairies all used the same design of wand. Sort of like how different ranks of soldiers have different stripes on their uniforms, to indicate their status. So there could have potentially been more than one wand like that in existence. Though it’s also possible that K&H are going the Harry Potter route and having each wand be individual and specific to the person who uses it. We just don’t know for sure either way.
@myril wrote:
Not the least bit surprised, that they won’t be in this episode, nor expecting them for the rest of the season. Not surprised either, that people got a different impression.
There was an article recently that implied that Robin would likely be around for the rest of the season. Also, they made him the focus of promo for the previous ep, which would be unusual if he was just a one shot character who was only in a few flashback scenes.
But her plan revolves around a fail-safe that was planted within the curse, which if triggered could wipe Storybrooke off the map – and kill all of its inhabitants;
😯
@RumplesGirl wrote:
No Robin Hood or Maid Marian? I was under the impression they (or at least Robin) would be appearing for the rest of the season?
Yeah I’m a bit surprised to not see them listed.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
She delivers her own plan to Hook, one that will allow them to escape the destruction of Stroybrooke (and whoa…nice language. I think we’re going to be saying goodbye to SB for real!).
“If I can trust you.” Which you never can tell with Hook, because boyfriend is primarily on his own team.
If I were in Hook’s shoes, I’d probably still kidnap her for GOAT, to stay in their good graces long enough to get information from them on how to kill Rumple. Then I’d save Regina from their clutches, as a means of getting back into her good graces enough to piggyback on her escape route out of town. Playing both sides for maximum personal advantage. Even if that’s his plan though, I’m guessing it’ll go horribly wrong at some point. Just like I think Regina’s plan for complete destruction of SB will also go horribly wrong at some point.
Keith in SB wasn’t anywhere near as horrible as his FTL persona. The guy actually went to apologise and clear the air with Rumple. Granted, anyone with half a brain doesn’t go to shake Rumple’s hand when he’s deathstaring you, so that was a dumb move on Keith’s part.
Keeping in mind that Rumple was judging Keith by remembering their previous meeting in FTL, I can’t blame him for having been angry as hell. Here’s a guy who once asked Rumple to prostitute Belle, just for 20mins, and now he’s just had his hands and mouth all over her in SB. Belle doesn’t remember the way Keith spoke about her in FTL, so from Rumple’s perspective, he had to defend her from this cretin she was dangerously close to hooking up with. There’s actually something romantic about it, that whole thing where someone will love you enough to fight to the death to protect you if need be. The notion gets less romantic if it’s not a fair fight though. And this wasn’t a fair fight.
Being that he’s Rumple, he could have quite easily put the fear of God into Keith just by threatening him about what he’d do if he ever laid a hand on her again. But being that he’s Rumple, he has a short fuse. 😕
I don’t like the fact that Rumple wailed on Keith like that. I don’t like that Lacey encourages that side of him. But I do like how emotionally complicated a situation Rumple’s stuck in right now, because I think it will be really interesting to see how this storyline develops, and it will be all the more rewarding when Rumple does start moving in the right direction instead, and ends up saving himself, and Belle in the process.
@Keb wrote:
OR he’s going to be after some revenge of his own and happily cooperate with certain other baddies.
If we do see him again this season, I’d think this would be the more likely context.
