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August 17, 2014 at 3:41 am #280289
In reply to: The Captain Swan thread!
Jenna_B
ParticipantI think the Henry/Rumple storyline will stem from the loss of Neal, not his discomfort with CS. I think Henry believes gettong his cursed memories back will dull that pain…cursed Henry had never met Neal and only knew the stories cursed Emma told him, so he was pretty ambivalent about Neal. Neal’s death had an effect on everyone but it was far more profound for Rumple and Henry. So from a CS standpoint I don’t think the Rumple/Henry storyline really intersects. I think Killian and Emma’s are going to stem from their pasts and having to work through internal problems as opposed to being faced with external problems.
[adrotate group="5"]August 16, 2014 at 6:34 pm #280280In reply to: The Captain Swan thread!
Jenna_B
ParticipantBo-Peeps, your words of wisdom always make me feel better when members of the fandumb are being absolutely ridiculous! And POM, you are without a doubt my favorite Hook-convert! I love our little group here…and all you lurkers out there, S4 will be here soon — we’d love to hear from you!!!! 🙂
I have a feeling Hook will be getting his hand back. Like others said, logistics is an issue. An interview that Colin gave at one point said it can get difficult because the writers often write for him like he has two hands, so what sounds great on paper isn’t always feasible. Additionally, as mentioned, the long black jacket does help in distracting from the difference in lengths, but other colors and clothing aren’t going to conceal it well. Can you imagine that kind of costuming nightmare? They’d have to have every top he wears special made and/or altered. I think keeping him in the pirate garb was definitely more symbolic as opposed to simply keeping him in a singular costume because it’s easy.
Personally, I don’t care if he loses the hook. What I want is to see the pirate come out in various situations. I’d love to see Hook get vicious if someone tries to hurt his newfound family. I can see him being especially protective of Henry. And I love me lots of Emma and Captain Innuendo! To me, the personality is what makes the character and there is so much personality with Hook, that I think they can get rid of the outside so long as his personality doesn’t change.
August 16, 2014 at 1:43 pm #280273In reply to: The Captain Swan thread!
Bo-Peeps
ParticipantAside from the gag-worthy comment that Hook could remind anyone of that dullard Neal, A&E have consistently proven/written that Hook and Emma were made for each other.
They are the intense, passionate SOUL struggling romance couple of ONCE who represent the complex depth of finding and fighting for a genuine love of one’s life.
Neal was a self-centered putz. Hook’s emotional journey and intense devotion to helping Emma believe in herself and open her heart to love again is so hard in large part due to the hideous damage and pain Neal caused for her. Neal was toxic to Emma. Hook is the path to healing her.
It is a difficult and arduous path for both of them. The rewards, however, if they succeed, are SOUL saving and immeasurable.
Until and if Hook gets his hand back, the hook IS his hand, which he has had a tad bit of century experience controlling and using. The only thing aggressive or abusive about the “scene” being discussed is the moronic comments from obsessively immature whiners.
The foul crap that these rape-culture-obsessed dolts are using as a lame excuse for their inabilities to face “fictional” reality and to try and denigrate someone else’s joy only makes them look ugly, mean and troll- pathetic. And frankly, they can p***-off.
And that video you linked,@lady, is splendid!!!! Thank you!
***Always in search of a good flock***
August 16, 2014 at 12:17 pm #280269In reply to: The Captain Swan thread!
lady
ParticipantThis made my day today 😀
Anyway I’ve been thinking… about that possibilyty of Hook getting his hand back. I don’t think he needs it. I mean he’s fine the way he is. Storywise it wouldn’t be such a grate move. However it would be good logistics decision. Hooks pirate garb has helped to conceal any problems they had with his hook and brace( ex. longer left hand). Killian is getting new wordrobe. I doubt he’ll be wearing long sleeves all the time- so there is that. And imagine a sexy scene (if we’ll ever get one). What would they do with Colin’s hand- keep the brace on, put it in a green glove that will add more cost to the budget? It is easier to magiaclly attach his hand again. It could be Rumples doing. Like he was trying to please Hery or prove himsefl to Belle. Kinda show her that his over the whole revenge staff adn it’s time to make amends. Or it could be Emma’s doing. She is a Product of True Love with all that unkown magic. She could do it by accident while still lernnig to control her abilities…Think about it.
August 16, 2014 at 11:32 am #280268In reply to: The Captain Swan thread!
PriceofMagic
Participant@surayya re spoiler: yeah I saw that too. And if the haters actually watched the clip instead of judging on perhaps the gift I saw of it you can clearly hear the director calls ‘cut’ immediately after he grabbed her arm. So obviously they didn’t think it was right. They rehearsed Hook grabbing Emma’s arm with his hook then went back inside to get another take.
I’m getting sick to death of ignorant people spouting absolute bullocks about things they jump to conclusions to feed their hate campaign. :@I don’t see anything wrong with Hook grabbing Emma’s arm (I can see why they didn’t have him grab her with the hook because theoretically if he’d misjudged the distance, his Hook could’ve ended up in Emma’s arm.) You can clearly see she’s p***ed at him, and she’s not listening to him. He’s grabbed her arm only to get her to stop walking away from him (and as I think this leads to the kiss, it’s not like Emma’s not consenting to being there). Emma stops and looks at him, she’s not trying to pull away, he’s not trying to drag her back. It is not an aggressive grab. There is no aggression there on Hook’s part. Had he grabbed her aggressively then that’s the time to start being concerned.
As for Hook promoting rape culture, he doesn’t. Especially Season 3 Hook. Season 2 Hook was a bit more full on but even season 3 Hook recognised he didn’t want Emma with that sort of guy and punched himself in the face. Hook isn’t going to force Emma into doing anything sexual that she doesn’t want to do. If any character is on morally dubious ground when it comes to “rape culture” then it’d be Regina and her relationship to Graham. Also Zelena and her control over Rumple. Whilst as far as we know she never tried anything like that, the fact that she had absolute control over Rumple’s physical movements very much held the threat that she could’ve made him do things he didn’t want to do.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixAugust 16, 2014 at 8:09 am #280259In reply to: The Captain Swan thread!
obisgirl
ParticipantAnd if Hook leaving her in the jail bothered her more, we’d hear about it. Jen would say so in interviews. Has she said so? Nope.
Has she talked about Neal leaving her and how that affected her? Yes. Plenty of times.
Emma realizes her mistake in leaving Hook behind. She knows she made a bad judgement call. If she hadn’t left Hook, he wouldn’t have been with Cora.
Its either Adam or Eddy who says this on the finale commentary, but the guys pretty much confirm that Hook reminded her of Neal and Emma could see herself falling for Hook, which is why she left Hook behind on the beanstalk in Tallahassee.
August 16, 2014 at 7:44 am #280257In reply to: The Captain Swan thread!
surayya
ParticipantAs for the Hook leaving Emma in jail thing — I think those that don’t want to see the context, aren’t. 1) As said, Emma trapped Hook first. He had no idea she made a deal with Anton to let him live, and he had very real reason to believe she left him to die. The important part of the scene, in that context, is that Hook is not only ‘you tried to kill me’ upset, but more importantly, he’s ‘you betrayed me when I wanted to help you’ upset. Because of the connection they made on the beanstalk. 2) I still don’t think for a second Hook believed he was leaving the girls in the jail cell to die. He knows the Dark One well, and I think he suspects the Dark One wasn’t really and truly trapped in there – ie, they could get out. The point of leaving her there is, he knows Emma already. He knows she’ll get out. Because he knows she can do it (contrast to Neal’s “you think you can do it?” comment about the watches. Oh, the haters. They’re really scraping the bottom of the bowl with the whole ‘arm grabbing’ argument. Seriously, in your entire life, has no one ever tried to keep you from walking away from them? Really? Because if no one’s ever grabbed your arm like that or done something to the equivalent you’re either less than a year old or incredibly, incredibly sheltered. I grab my son on a daily basis – otherwise he’d have been hit by a car, set the house on fire, drowned in the bathtub or fallen off the couch! But I choose not to think about that – did you see the gif/video where he grabs her with the hook? Oh my…I don’t know why but that just gave me all the feels!
Yep, exactly, which is why I dont even bother discussing Hook’s motives over doing so anymore, instead I point out the outcome of his leaving her in jail (since the haters keep pointing it out) vs Neal leaving her in jail (since they wont see that as wrong/bad)- they have not as yet even bothered arguing the outcomes, because they cant lol
Oh, no I havent seen that particular gif yet! Can some link or post it here please? 🙂
August 16, 2014 at 7:10 am #280256In reply to: The Captain Swan thread!
Jenna_B
ParticipantAs for the Hook leaving Emma in jail thing — I think those that don’t want to see the context, aren’t. 1) As said, Emma trapped Hook first. He had no idea she made a deal with Anton to let him live, and he had very real reason to believe she left him to die. The important part of the scene, in that context, is that Hook is not only ‘you tried to kill me’ upset, but more importantly, he’s ‘you betrayed me when I wanted to help you’ upset. Because of the connection they made on the beanstalk. 2) I still don’t think for a second Hook believed he was leaving the girls in the jail cell to die. He knows the Dark One well, and I think he suspects the Dark One wasn’t really and truly trapped in there – ie, they could get out. The point of leaving her there is, he knows Emma already. He knows she’ll get out. Because he knows she can do it (contrast to Neal’s “you think you can do it?” comment about the watches.
Oh, the haters. They’re really scraping the bottom of the bowl with the whole ‘arm grabbing’ argument. Seriously, in your entire life, has no one ever tried to keep you from walking away from them? Really? Because if no one’s ever grabbed your arm like that or done something to the equivalent you’re either less than a year old or incredibly, incredibly sheltered. I grab my son on a daily basis – otherwise he’d have been hit by a car, set the house on fire, drowned in the bathtub or fallen off the couch! But I choose not to think about that – did you see the gif/video where he grabs her with the hook? Oh my…I don’t know why but that just gave me all the feels!
August 16, 2014 at 3:59 am #280253In reply to: The Captain Swan thread!
ellemo78
Participant@surayya re spoiler: yeah I saw that too. And if the haters actually watched the clip instead of judging on perhaps the gift I saw of it you can clearly hear the director calls ‘cut’ immediately after he grabbed her arm. So obviously they didn’t think it was right. They rehearsed Hook grabbing Emma’s arm with his hook then went back inside to get another take.
I’m getting sick to death of ignorant people spouting absolute bullocks about things they jump to conclusions to feed their hate campaign. :@If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
August 16, 2014 at 12:43 am #280251In reply to: The Captain Swan thread!
surayya
ParticipantSome more pretties for Lady:
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