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In reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire
I like the idea that Morpheus somehow connects to Emma’s true dream with Neal, but Belle specifically said that he wasn’t Morpheus, he was just pretending to be. Obviously, it could all be a lie, but i don’t really want to speculate until we know that that isn’t actually Rumpel and Belle’s child. It is like they are again replacing Bae with another character to have these conversations with Rumpel that Bae should have had, so it is too annoying to speculate on until we find out whether or not it is real.
[adrotate group="5"]In reply to: EW 9/25 – Is Emma doomed?
One thing we are all forgetting, is that the figure was not an actor was a stunt double, so the size of the character or how the character may be dress, means nothing, bc when they decide to say who is it, if is EQ, Rumple, Jafar, Aladdin, or any other person, they will not be thinking, oh, cant be them, bc they are all to small, nope, they would not even remenber that part and if they are asked, they will probably say that was a simple vision, so not the real thing.
crack theory, maybe is prince Neal from the future, lol i mean we have RB baby from the future that is actually a god that exists since forever, so prince Neal being Emma nemesis, would be almost normal, of course Future henry also works like @TheWatcher said.
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Isnt one of the writers that writes Rumple? maybe is related to RB baby, like he is not really Morpheus, or Morpheus was just pretending to be their son and he could awake belle bc he is a god so powers to do it, and he has some hidden agenda.
Of course can also be about Emma and her brother, or some other character replaced someone else kid, in this show where Snowing kidnaps babies everything is possible.
In reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire
Saw this online, the girl uses canon show script to talk about SF, i post the link here bc has language, also all her posts are great but the last one is amazing, also she actually shows that in show, they actually say that SF meet btw 24th october ad 31st december 2001, wonder why Keb never realised this, on the 1st time August and neal meet, August clearly say that while she was the the sistem, but not that she left and there is no indications in show that she run from the sistem, means that SF meet after she was 18 years old, meaning that henry should have 9 in the pilot and if he was born in august would be in 2012 and no way he could have 11 in 2014. The link HERE
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Another fact to consider when thinking about Neal/Bae and the “bold” decision to kill him off is WHY?
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We know why. Adam and Eddy told us. Over and over and over again.
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Adam and Eddy WANTED TO KILL PRINCE CHARMING. ABC smartly told them “no!”.
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They couldn’t kill David, so the two idiots INVENTED a Prince Charming they owned (Bae) AND KILLED HIM.
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Don’t see the parallels?
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Snow was a bandit. Emma was a theif.
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David was pretending to be a wealthy prince. Neal was pretending to own a car.
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Snow met David when she tried to rob him in “his” royal carriage. They fell in love. Emma met Neal when she tried to steal “his” car. THEY fell in love.
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King George told Snow if she truly loved David, she would leave him forever even though it meant she’d be alone and miserable. Snow left. August told Neal if he truly loved Emma he would leave her forever even though it meant he’d be alone and miserable. Neal left.
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Listen to Emma and Neal’s music in Tallahassee when she is smiling happily and kissing him by choice as he proposes. That music is Snow and Charming’s True Love theme played on an electric keyboard.
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The pendant? Crossed realms per script via Belle because Emma and Neal were in TRUE LOVE (that’s right, NEAL and Emma sharing TRUE LOVE is cannon. Not fanfic, CANNON. It’s in the script. It happened.)
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Emma and Neal were ABSOLUTELY endgame until the the two idiots realized “hey! We own Neal! We CAN kill Prince Charming! Yay!!!!!!” And the two idiots happily did.
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THAT is why they killed Neal.
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It wasn’t a bold choice. It was a bad idea that had been vetoed years earlier by people much smarter than they were.
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Ever listen to the two idiots give an interview? They stupidly think “the audience knows where this is going” is a sign of FAILURE instead of SUCCESS, and they SOOOOO wanted to kill Prince Charming for the 10 years they spent planning the 1st season.
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In the five minutes they spent planning all further seasons, they couldn’t think of anything to do. (Let’s apply logic: Saying they wanted to get the rights to Neverland and if they did they wanted Captain Hook to have a crush on Emma DOES NOT MEAN THAT THERE WAS ANY INTENT FOR HER TO RECIPROCATE THOSE FEELINGS). But the two idiots Wished on the Star power of Colin’s pretty face and made their idiotic disgusting rape culture show-killing dream come true: THEY KILLED THE PRINCE CHARMING ABC DIDN’T OWN: BAELFIRE.
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EMMA AND BAE WERE ENDGAME FROM DAY ONE.
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Rumpel wanted to find his son Bae. Snow and David wanted to find their daughter Emma
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Emma (the child of true love and light magic) was destined to meet and FALL IN TRUE LOVE with Baelfire, AKA Neal Cassidy (the child of a loveless marriage and dark magic).
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The Scripts, the show’s PREMISE, JMo’s performances with MR-J, CO’D statement that Hook was a sociopath, and MR-J shock at being fired ALL support this.
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It was perfect, elegant, and beautiful.
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Too bad the idiots wanted to kill Prince Charming more then they wanted to write a good TV Show. THAT is why they killed Baelfire, aka Neal Cassidy, the Cannon True Love of Emma Swan.In reply to: EW 9/25 – Is Emma doomed?
I very much doubt it’s Rumple or EQ, and I can’t see it being Jafar — they’re just too small. That hooded figure fighting Emma was suspiciously large. My money’s on Gregor Clegane. Either that, or it’s more of a cosmic level antagonist (so not Rumple or Regina as we know them, but perhaps some sort of cumulative extract of everyone’s dark side.) Or it’s actually Emma fighting her own shadow self. The red teleport smoke doesn’t make me immediately suspect Rumple. If anything, it makes me curious about what Rumple and Jafar might have in common.
Whoever it is more than likely will have an emotional connection to Emma. Rumpel does, considering they are essentially family. And so does Regina.
Maybe its Henry. From the future.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
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I very much doubt it’s Rumple or EQ, and I can’t see it being Jafar — they’re just too small. That hooded figure fighting Emma was suspiciously large. My money’s on Gregor Clegane.
Either that, or it’s more of a cosmic level antagonist (so not Rumple or Regina as we know them, but perhaps some sort of cumulative extract of everyone’s dark side.) Or it’s actually Emma fighting her own shadow self.
The red teleport smoke doesn’t make me immediately suspect Rumple. If anything, it makes me curious about what Rumple and Jafar might have in common.
In reply to: EW 9/25 – Is Emma doomed?
I meant the poofing magic. When Regina poofs places or things it is not red. That is Regina’s trying to blow something up with Emma magic. That is different. In the last episode, Rumpel poofed away when he took Belle to that room and then when the cloaked figure poofed away the sword it was the exact same color.
In reply to: EW 9/25 – Is Emma doomed?
Regina magic is also red.
Occasionally, but most of the time it’s an indigo color.
Im not talking about the purple smoke, im talking about when she does magic, in this current storyline, Regina has red magic, means that Jafar, Rumple are not the only ones with red magic and now that EQ is separated from Regina, can mean EQ has it as well and even if is Emma can still be red, the colour of her jacket that the ouat people always said represents her walls and she and hook even have a quote about the red jacket, meaning her walls are her worst enemy.
Below the evidence that Regina has red magic, in the last one, S6 but since u all saw the episode, im sure u know that. ( have to say if this red magic only happens when she is with Emma, then a certain ship fans, have reason to say they are being bait)
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But again, didnt they said, by they i mean the show, that was someone on land of untold stories ploting Emma`s death? who is there, maybe Jafar that wants to kill all saviors, and Emma is special bc of the true love incarnated, no darkness bc of snowing and then ex dark one, maybe if he kills her, he gets her powers or something like that.
In reply to: EW 9/25 – Is Emma doomed?
What if….. the cloaked figure is actually….. Emma. And Emma… is actually Evil!Emma split from her good side. That might work right?
Yeah I think it’s Emma–but not her Evil side, morel like her “orphan, insecure” side…basically a bodily representation of her famous Walls.
My only hole in this is that The Cloaked Figure had red smoke magic. Emmas magic is white. Rumpel and Jafars are red. So…that might be a thing.
Hmmm…maybe Emma did somehow separated herself. That way she retains all of the light magic while her darker half retains all of the dark…in a way that could be fitting. If not herself, then I think I’m siding with Rumple because he’s the only other character with red magic I think, and who knows…maybe Mr. Gold separated himself from Dark One Rumplestilskin, and that is what’s happening.
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In reply to: EW 9/25 – Is Emma doomed?
I could believe rumpel is driven over the edge and wants to kill the savior. He has lost his son, probably his wife, and his unborn child hates him already. Maybe since he gets no happy ending, he doesnt want anyone to either. So he wants to kill the bringer of happy endings. The savior.
Now of course, another tiny point to make is that the cloaked figure is also taller than both Rump and Emma. So eh…
And also i dont think he woukd fight with a sword and not magic. But honestly i dont know.
I am certain thay whoever it is, we know them already.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC
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