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[PriceofMagic]

In Price of Gold, Emma says to Henry (in regards to Ashley) “anyone who wants to be a mother should damn well allow to be one”. Regina wants to be a mother to Henry but Emma’s not going to allow that which is technically hypocritical of Emma. Regina did a fairly decent job raising Henry however she wasn’t meeting his emotional needs and he felt like she didn’t love him and that she only pretended to. This may not be entirely Regina’s fault, enacting the curse left a void that she would never be able to fill, so it is possible that she loves Henry as much as she is capable but it isn’t good enough. On the other hand, Regina isn’t a great mother, she will often put her own wants and needs above Henry and even when Henry gets hurt, she doesn’t care so long as she can get one up on Emma.

[WickedRegal]

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First of all, let’s get one thing straight haters! Henry is weak *please avoid profanities* boy! Regina has been through too much hell and water to be talked about by Charming and Happily Ever After Lovers! Okay let’s get that straight! I personally don’t understand why she would fight for a boy who has called her evil to her face, stays out as late as he wants, that’s right Charmers, he runs away, How is Regina supposed to know where he is, her problem was trusting him in the beginning, she should have Sidney watching him, this woman is the damn mayor trying to run a town, while trying to please this 10 year old brat, and doing battle with the woman he gave up, and trying hard *please avoid profanities* to not lose her damn mind. I would have packed Henry’s mess, and threw it out the damn window to him Emma, and all the other people who want him, and disown him. If you are not going to respect me, you’re out of here, 10 years I put buying you things for christmas, birthdays, money, clothes, food, and whatever the hell else you need, and you gone run out and get your birth parent, and rub it in my face. I wouldn’t give a damn else about Henry, and I would have told Emma to take him, and get the hell out of my town, and saved the curse, they don’t age, so Regina could have adopted another baby, and raised him or her.

Next, we all know Regina is one of the cruelest, wickedest, bitchiest witch there ever was, not to mention the most powerful! Is that really her fault? No! It is Snow White! That Snowflake’s actions darkened Regina’s heart, so if you want to bash somebody, bash her and Cora! True Snow was a 12 year old child, but let’s not forget people, we were once children, and if somebody asked, no begged and pleaded with us to never tell their secret, would you still have done it, especially toward their mother who Regina said ABOVE ALL ELSE NOT MY MOTHER! I don’t care how sad their parent maybe, as a child who’s holding what seems to be a very important secret, I would have told her nothing! She should have just walked out the room when she saw Cora! Snow was also a selfish child, single people and spouses, put yourselves in Regina’s shoes, if you were truly in love with someone who was there for you even through child abuse, and neglection, and tried their best to console and protect you, and even loved you despite what harmful words thrown by your mother, and your father doesn’t do crap about it! He gets killed because you entrusted a 12 year old with your secret, who’s known to be spoiled, and you are forced to marry their father who is 3 times your damn age (Regina: 19, Leo: 57), and be a mother to the one who betrayed you, and trapped in a loveless marriage, while your mother celebrates! Not to mention, the brat gets married, and has her happily ever after, after she destroyed yours, and made you seem like the bad guy, making it seem like you wanted her gone just because she looks prettier, Snow knows it is not that, and refuses to tell the truth of what really went down between her and Regina! Regina more than likely snapped in the mind! Also, if she wanted to really,really kill Snow White, wouldn’t she have killed her in Storybrooke, and nobody would have noticed! No, so Snow better be grateful for that! Also is you look closely (Stable Boy) where Mary Margret is getting interviewed about Kathryn’s death, you can see the hurt on Regina’s face as it seemed she thought of it as Mary getting grilled about Daniel’s death, especially when Mary Margraet said.

I quote Mary Margret/Snow: Yes, of course I wanted her (Him) gone! She (He) was the only thing keeping us (Regina and Snow) apart, so yeah, I wanted her (Him) gone! Is that what you wanna hear!* Okay, so people, while you are trying to say she was only 12, this woman even though confessed to wanting Kathryn gone, is still Snow on the inside to where 12 year old Snow probably really wanted Daniel gone, and told her mother purposely, just so she can have Regina to herself as a mother! Snow might have an angelic face, but the heart of a spoiled soul, which we especially saw even though it was the potion in Heart of Darkness! Snow is really spoiled!

This is all I have to say about this, and I really want you all to think about what I just said because, yes, Regina may have turned to darkness, but that’s not her fault, and she may have not always made the best choices with Henry, but she made a hell of a lot more than wrong, and was a damn strict good mother! No mother is perfect, especially when Regina had one such as Cora, so she did better than what some people think as a single mother compared to her wicked married mother!

"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

[elle]

I don’t think Rumpelstiltskin would have gotten far running a second time. He would have been caught again, and possible killed for it. The Knight was obviously cruel–he would have enjoyed killing, or at least torturing him.

I had forgotten about magic coming back–now Emma will truly have no choice, not unless she either is able to get out of it, or if the task is not too dark. Even if Emma is forced, she might be able to find a loophole–Rumpelstiltskin did it himself with his deal with Regina when he promised something tragic would happen to Kathryn.

Concerning the Blue Fairy, I don’t think she will have much power. Rumpelstiltskin does not like them, and since their magic does not react well with his, he will probably do what he can to make sure they have little to no power, and since he made the curse and the True Love potion, it might not be too hard.

[antbee]

Speaking of which, since many are convinced that Rumpelstiltskin’s wife ran off with Captain Hook (not sure about that theory, but I digress) could it also be speculated that Captain Hook is Baelfire’s biological father?

It could certainly be possible. Perhaps Rumple wouldn’t have been so enraged if he hadn’t wondered the same question at one time.

Yeah, I think we’ll see her having an affair (and getting pregnant) with this Beaman character while Rumple is off at war. Then Rumple will come back and she’ll be torn, and will find it hard to stay with him when the whole kingdom is getting down on him for being a deserter. Then not long after Bae is born, she’ll go to join Beaman, and will either run away with him, or she’ll die when his gang of thieves are set upon. Maybe she’ll have babyBae with her at the time, and Rumple will find her dead, still holding him, so he’ll take him for his own, even though he knows he’s not really his.

This sounds like it could definitely happen in the show if Milha turns out to be Bae’s mom. I like how Bae’s situation would sort of mirror Henry’s situation with his moms if this turns out to be true. Although in Bae’s case, his “real” dad would be the Regina while Rumple would be the Emma. If Bae does turn out to be Peter Pan, maybe Hook hates Bae/Peter because he felt that Bae/Peter was the reason Milha ended up dying or some reason like that.

There is also the favor that Emma owes Mr. Gold. She may be forced to do something that could be seen as a betrayal. I don’t think Emma would be forced into something nefarious, but it is a possibility.

Ooh, that would be interesting. I forgot now that magic is back, she’s bound by the deal that she made otherwise there will be consequences for her. She should have said that getting back the potion would make them even, but of course she was worried about Henry at the time and wasn’t concerned about the favor she still owed Mr. Gold.

If Henry’s dad comes back into town, and Mr. Gold suspects that he’s Bae, I think the favor would probably would do with him. I’m sure Snowing will probably hate him for what he did to their daughter, so if Emma is forced to be nice to him to find out if he’s Bae for sure or something like that, I could see that being seen as a betrayal not a major one perhaps, but maybe to Snowing it would be major.

The thing is, I don’t trust Gepetto. We already know that he’s worked behind the scenes for his own happiness. Although I find it hard to dislike him because he chose his son over the world, it wouldn’t be a shock if he finds August (still in wooden form), is for some reason turned away by the Blue Fairy, and turns to Regina out of desperation (maybe mirroring the father/son desperate souls dynamics.)

I like that story idea especially if they have to do a Gepetto/August-centric episode this season. I think it would also be a good way to keep August in the background now because I could see Snowing forgiving Gepetto and August eventually for what happened before, but if Gepetto went to Regina to get help even out of desperation, the Charmings would probably never be able to get over that. Even if August was allowed to be on the War Council and his dad wasn’t, it might be too awkward for August to be around the Charmings for very long.

[Phee]

@AntBee wrote:

It is weird why they won’t reveal who they’ve cast in that role since presumably the actress already must have been cast since this is the episode that she’s suppose to appear in. I wonder if they found someone who looks incredibly like Dylan Schmid and/or Michael Raymond-James, and that’s why they’re keeping it under wraps because unless the actress looks a lot like either of those two actors, I would just assume that Bae took after Rumple or whoever his biological dad might be.

Yes, it all seems very suspicious to me that they’ve been so cagey with certain casting info. Considering how everyone jumps on it whenever a guy is cast who looks even remotely like Bae, it’d make sense to me that if Milha was actually cast to look like him, they’d keep her face a secret until it’s revealed in the ep.

@TheDarkOne wrote:

@PriceofMagic wrote:

I don’t think Rumple killed his first wife because, at the time ,he was such a coward that he didn’t have it in him. I think Rumple was telling Bae the truth about his mother being dead, he just conveniently left out the part where she ran off with another man beforehand.

I agree. If Rumpel was too afraid to fight in a war, I don’t really see how he’d be able to murder his own wife. It doesn’t add up.

Yep, I’m sure that Zoso was the first person Rumple ever killed, and that’s only because he was driven to it out of desperation and fear for his son. No way could he have killed Bae’s mother IMO.

And I’ll wait to see how Rumpel’s wife if portrayed on the show before judging her. If she really was just a bored housewife who abandoned her own husband and child, then I won’t have much sympathy for her. Hopefully, there’s more to her story than that. Because I can already see the horde of fangirls ready to tear her apart. 😆

I’d say it’s a given that Rumple’s ex won’t be a huge fan fave no matter what she’s like. Given how much the fandom loves Rumbelle, his ex can hardly have been his true love, so they may as well not bother trying to write her in a sympathetic way.

@PriceofMagic wrote:

Rumple’s wife is barely mentioned and what little we do know about her is that she left Rumple because of his cowardice and she may have conceived Bae with another man whilst still married to Rumple. Perhaps the affair was ongoing whilst Rumple was away at the ogre wars and his return was rather inconvenient for her.

Yeah, I think we’ll see her having an affair (and getting pregnant) with this Beaman character while Rumple is off at war. Then Rumple will come back and she’ll be torn, and will find it hard to stay with him when the whole kingdom is getting down on him for being a deserter. Then not long after Bae is born, she’ll go to join Beaman, and will either run away with him, or she’ll die when his gang of thieves are set upon. Maybe she’ll have babyBae with her at the time, and Rumple will find her dead, still holding him, so he’ll take him for his own, even though he knows he’s not really his.

@Elle wrote:

Speaking of which, since many are convinced that Rumpelstiltskin’s wife ran off with Captain Hook (not sure about that theory, but I digress) could it also be speculated that Captain Hook is Baelfire’s biological father?

Yep, that’s the theory I’m going with right now, that Beaman was Hook’s FTL alter ego in the past, when he had an affair with Rumple’s wife, making him Bae’s bio-dad.

I think August will still be wooden–magic may be back, but he still did not act as he was instructed to. That won’t be taken back. Which also brings up the traitor–my brother and I thought of Gepetto. He may be desperate to help his son, and he may be willing to go to either Rumpelstiltskin or Regina for help. 🙁

Yes, if it’s up to BF to turn him back again, she may not be keen to, given the events surrounding the wardrobe. Though I do think she was helping August after he came to town, but she was likely doing so for everyone else’s good, not necessarily his own, so she may not be moved to fix him. I could see Gepetto getting desperate and going to the other side for help to save his son. Rumple probably wouldn’t be keen to help, coz he’s got no love for August. But Regina could tell him, “I’ll help you get your son back if you’ll help me get mine back.”

There is also the favor that Emma owes Mr. Gold. She may be forced to do something that could be seen as a betrayal. I don’t think Emma would be forced into something nefarious, but it is a possibility.

She wouldn’t have much choice but to comply when he asks for that favour. If she tries to wriggle out of that deal, methinks some not good stuff will happen.

[lilred]

The thing is, I don’t trust Gepetto. We already know that he’s worked behind the scenes for his own happiness. Although I find it hard to dislike him because he chose his son over the world, it wouldn’t be a shock if he finds August (still in wooden form), is for some reason turned away by the Blue Fairy, and turns to Regina out of desperation (maybe mirroring the father/son desperate souls dynamics.)

I’m intrigued by the possibility of Emma, the savior, turing against her own. Is there a bigger shocker than Emma being the traitor? Now that magics back, I’m sure reneging on a deal with Rumpelstiltskin is impossible.

[elle]

I also agree that he did not kill his wife, simply because that Knight said so himself that she ran off, and he seemed too scared to be able to do kill anyone. The only reason he killed the former Dark One was for two reasons–one, for Baelfire and all the other children in war. Second, Zoso goaded him with the fact that Baelfire might not be his son, and that enraged him enough to do the act.

Speaking of which, since many are convinced that Rumpelstiltskin's wife ran off with Captain Hook (not sure about that theory, but I digress) could it also be speculated that Captain Hook is Baelfire's biological father?

I think August will still be wooden–magic may be back, but he still did not act as he was instructed to. That won’t be taken back. Which also brings up the traitor–my brother and I thought of Gepetto. He may be desperate to help his son, and he may be willing to go to either Rumpelstiltskin or Regina for help. 🙁

There is also the favor that Emma owes Mr. Gold. She may be forced to do something that could be seen as a betrayal. I don’t think Emma would be forced into something nefarious, but it is a possibility.

[antbee]

@Phee wrote:

I’m not convinced that Hook’s hook will actually be in Mr Gold’s shop, I suspect that was just an interesting way for them to shoot a promo for the Hook reveal. But I also suspect that Hook stole Rumple’s wife back in the day, so that’s how I’m gonna explain them having scenes together. 😉

Yes, I think it was just suppose to be a cool promo since Colin O’Donoghue hadn’t even been cast at that time. I also agree though that I think Milha was Rumple’s wife, and that’s how he and Hook will be connected in episode 4.

And I suspect maybe we haven’t had casting info for Milha because they had to cast someone who looks like she’s Bae’s mother, so they didn’t want her face known beforehand. You can’t fool me, Adam and Eddy. I don’t need to see someone’s face to be able to figure out who they are! 😛

It is weird why they won’t reveal who they’ve cast in that role since presumably the actress already must have been cast since this is the episode that she’s suppose to appear in. I wonder if they found someone who looks incredibly like Dylan Schmid and/or Michael Raymond-James, and that’s why they’re keeping it under wraps because unless the actress looks a lot like either of those two actors, I would just assume that Bae took after Rumple or whoever his biological dad might be.

I’ll bet August is still gonna be a big ole’ block of wood in that bed, and it’ll take Mother Superior to make him real again.

This makes sense especially if they’re planning on reducing Eion Bailey’s role. I wonder if he would have stayed as a regular maybe they would have held off more on bringing in Henry’s dad and/or Bae so soon.

And I’ve also got my money on MRJ’s character being Henry’s bio-dad, which would make for a nice little recurring theme in a few eps at the start of the season.

Michael Raymond James turning out to be Bae and Henry’s dad would definitely fit in with the recurring theme of reunions that the first three to four episodes seem to be having based on the spoilers.

Let’s see, the reunions that we’ll see in the first three episodes:
1. Emma, Henry, Snow, and Charming
2. Charming and his mother (I guess they can’t all be happy reunions.)
3. Jefferson and his daughter
4. Probably Gepetto and August
5. Possibly Rumple, Bae, and Henry (Most likely the latter two, maybe not the former two yet.)

I don’t think Rumple killed his first wife because, at the time ,he was such a coward that he didn’t have it in him. I think Rumple was telling Bae the truth about his mother being dead, he just conveniently left out the part where she ran off with another man beforehand.

The more I think about it, the more I think Josephine was right in that Milha’s story is going to be like the folk song the “House Carpenter” that way fandom won’t hate Rumple’s ex/Bae’s wife anymore than they already do. It still makes her look bad that she ran off from her husband and son, but if she later regretted and ended up dying, then I think it makes her a lot more sympathetic. It would probably also make people feel even worse for poor Bae who might have the worst sob story out of all the characters, so if he did turn out to be a really, really huge jerk, maybe they’ll be willing to forgive him.

Thanks Antbee for the link. Turn against their own kind sounds like a fairy to me, but who knows. And you are right that the description is probably suspect, but they do usually have someone turn traitor in shows. It seems very unlikely that it would be Red or Granny to me. They may just mean Jefferson joining and helping Charming. Who knows.

You’re welcome. You’re right it could be someone turning against Regina and/or Rumple not necessarily one of the “good” guys turning against them. I suspect if the show runs long enough, we’ll see both scenarios happen at least once.

[antbee]

@hjbau wrote:

Okay someone a few pages back was talking about one of the characters being a traitor. Was there some sort of news that a character was going to be a traitor? Or was that just an idea that was being bandied around as a possibility?

It’s from a summary about the show from ABC Medianet. http://www.abcmedianet.com/web/showpage/showpage.aspx?program_id=003310&type=lead

Now the fairytale characters must contend with magic in their quest to find a way home, as new fairytale characters are revealed, old acquaintances are revisited, and some we had come to believe could be trusted will turn against their own kind.

I don’t know how reliable the spoiler is because it could just be someone that has no connection at all to the show writing the summary. I got it from someone at FanForums, so I’m not entirely sure if ABCMedianet has been a good source for spoilers in the past.

Of course, it wouldn’t surprise me if at least one character turns out to be a traitor during the run of the show because I think that happens on every genre show if they run long enough, at least.

Anyway, there is confirmation that filming for episode 4 is under way! Colin O’Donoghue tweeted that he’s “strapped on his hook” and is filming with the venerable Robert Carlyle! There is clearly some connection between the two characters, Captain Hook and Rumpelstiltskin, since we saw the promo in which the pirate broke into Mr. Gold’w pawn shop and stole his hook back.

Yes, it looks like the speculation about the fourth episode being Rumple-centric were true. This makes me even more convinced that Milha was Bae’s mom.

I still don’t know about the Bae as Peter Pan theory though. They’re certainly setting it up to make it seem that way right now, but I’m still holding out hope that because Bae was connected with the last magic bean that he’ll turn out to be this mysterious Jack character.

I’m really hoping that the big reveal isn’t that Henry’s dad is Captain Hook! I know it’d be far-fetched (not to mention unpopular). It’s just an annoying thought in the back of my mind. Emma said the father was “no hero” and that Henry didn’t need to know the real story. Is Emma trying to protect Henry? Could Captain Hook side with Regina in an effort to get custody of Henry? I’m hoping this is just a wacky thought, and that Henry’s dad is someone else completely.

I don’t think he is unless Bae turns out to be Captain Hook since they said we may have already seen Henry’s father before. I guess Bae could be Captain Hook, but right now I think that Captain Hook was someone Rumple knew a long time ago because of the Milha character, who I think was Rumple’s wife.

There’s also a new spoiler at TWoP about August that I read last night, but their forums are down right now because of maintenance. I’m not sure how reliable that one is since it’s from a friend of Tony Amendola’s.

ETA: Aw, finally TWoP is back up this morning. Here’s the spoiler,

For what it’s worth, I talked to Tony Amendola (Geppetto) today and asked him if when we come back, if Geppetto knows August/Pinocchio is in Storybrook or not and if he’s filmed scenes with him. While he didn’t give an episode number, he confirmed they were reunite “soon” and “they can’t leave that storyline opened for very long”. He made a comment about Geppetto “visiting Pinocchio’s bedside”. So far he’s in the 3rd episode but he’s filmed more. He also pretty much made it seem that August will not be in good shape when they return as well! I know it’s not the best spoiler but at least we know they’ll find each other sooner, rather than later.

[hjbau]

@TimeSpacer wrote:

When Emma steps out of her car upon first arriving in Storybrooke, there is a short on the power line in the background just as she slams the car door (you can see a picture of it at http://www.onceuponatimespace.com/pilotComment.html ). It was such a noticeable special effects shot I still wonder why they put it in. I don’t think it was ever explained during the season. Did they just add it for a dramatic effect to accompany the door slam or will it turn out to have some significance? I’m guessing it must be there for a reason. What does everyone else think?

I think that was them showing that Emma was effecting things. And i think Emma should have magic, so maybe because she was angry it caused that to happen physically. There are a lot of things that Emma does that cause things to happen. Like putting on the badge makes the caves fall in. Emma taking the key from Granny makes the clock move. Emma saying her name in front of Rumpel lets him get his memory back. And i think that even Emma blowing out the candle on her birthday makes Henry be there.