Search Results for 'emma'

[Phee]

@Oncescape wrote:

I think Rumpel has been the player behind of mostly everything from the point after he lost Baelfire ultimately leading to the curse, and our main storyline.

Agreed. From that moment on, he was plotting, scheming, and manipulating a way to create the curse to get back to Bae. One of the things I love about his character is how he so masterfully manipulates everyone, like a boss.

I do think that BF manipulates situations and people too, but not for selfish reasons. Rumple has no regard for what happens to the people he uses, he just has his eyes on the prize. But BF does what she does for the good of all, which is why she proclaims herself to be on the “right side”, though some of her methods may not be 100% honest.

I don’t think she intentionally dropped hints to guide him in the direction of cursing everyone. The idea that the magic in FTL was dying out, so she wanted to use Rumple to take them to a new world is interesting, and I can certainly see where people get that idea, but I’m not convinced she’s quite that notorious.

I’m not entirely convinced that she gave Bae the bean in the hope that Rumple would go with him. I think she knew Rumple well enough to know that he’d want no part of that vortex, because the magic came from her. I also think that perhaps she actually needed him to stay in FTL, because his dark magic was needed to co-exist with her good magic, in a “bring balance to the force” kind of way. So I think she gave Bae the bean to send him away, because it was the only way to protect him from his father, who was indestructible.

I also think BF has done some manipulating in SB, because I think she retained her memories so she’d be able to oversee what happened to them all in this new world. No way would she let all her people be transported to a new world and just leave it up to chance that everything would work out. I think she kept tabs on Emma, and was the one who orchestrated Henry being brought to SB.

– Mother Superior knows that Emma is about to have a baby.
– Mother Superior goes to Regina to drop hints about how a child would fill the void in her life, (why did Regina wait until then to adopt a kid, why not do it earlier, something had to instigate that decision for her).
– Regina goes to Mr Gold because Rumple gets the babies for people.
– Mr Gold goes to Mother Superior, who would know of any orphans in town in need of adoption.
– Mother Superior arranges for Henry to come to SB.

She may even have been the one to suggest to Mary Margaret that Henry would like the book, so he got it at just the right time to put the pieces together and go get Emma.

So I guess I’d classify both BF and Rumple as “puppet masters”, I just think that she does it for the greater good, instead of personal gain.

Where the original Dark One came from, whether that was Zoso or someone before him, may not be all that relevant.

I’m wondering if BF had something to do with the creation of the Dark One, and if that power was also part of her, being that she’s been labelled the “original power”. Shouldn’t that mean that all power was originally contained in her? But by the time of our story, she’s considered the bearer of only good power, and the dark power is contained in a whole separate entity. Maybe she tried to rid herself of her dark power, and in doing so, the Dark One was born, because power can’t be destroyed.

[Slurpeez]

Elle:I’m thinking that Hook is going to cause the group to sort of split-apart. He may be able to use Regina.

I like this theory a lot. The only reason I said he may seduce Regina (or will at least try to) is because he’s described in the casting call as a bit of a ladies’ man, and Regina seems lonely now that Henry and Graham are gone from her life. Hook and Regina are both equally brutal and ruthless, which led me to surmise that they could become an item (at least a one-time thing).

Anyway, there is confirmation that filming for episode 4 is under way! Colin O’Donoghue tweeted that he’s “strapped on his hook” and is filming with the venerable Robert Carlyle! There is clearly some connection between the two characters, Captain Hook and Rumpelstiltskin, since we saw the promo in which the pirate broke into Mr. Gold’w pawn shop and stole his hook back.

Also, this episode is going to have what could be some big reveal, as indicated by the “closed set” with no photography. Ginny Goodwin (Snow White) tweeted a picture with the message “ironic” (probably because it was a night shoot, and any candid photos from far off wouldn’t have turned out well):

I’m really hoping that the big reveal isn’t that Henry’s dad is Captain Hook! I know it’d be far-fetched (not to mention unpopular). It’s just an annoying thought in the back of my mind. Emma said the father was “no hero” and that Henry didn’t need to know the real story. Is Emma trying to protect Henry? Could Captain Hook side with Regina in an effort to get custody of Henry? I’m hoping this is just a wacky thought, and that Henry’s dad is someone else completely.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[Slurpeez]

OUAT cast:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwKUW9VZehk&feature=related

One of the best Mary Margaret & Emma Videos out there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk6MC5dw7H0

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[Phee]

@Lil’Red wrote:

Beaman: I really think this is the Storybrooke counterpart of Hook, that a notorious pirate would be a real world antiques dealer that obtained some pieces through….questionable means. 😎

Will they really need real world aliases any more though? Especially for new characters. I know the casting calls for Mulan and Aurora had different names, which were potentially their SB names, but wouldn’t SB names be sort of redundant now that everyone remembers their real names?

Jack: He does have a swagger and since Jack is going to be a criminal: I could see it.

Have they said Jack will be a criminal? Wasn’t his casting call the one about running from his past in a land full of danger, (which screams Bae to me)? There were so many casting calls in quick succession for a while there, I may be mixed up.

About the Emma’s Ex part: I don’t want the excuse for whatever happened between them to just be, “Well gosh! He never grew up! Isn’t that just adorably forgivable?” No, it’s a cop-out! 👿

Peter Pan being Henry’s father is a theory I’ve liked for a while now, but I’d never thought of the “he can’t grow up” explanation for why he was an immature guy who treated Emma like crap. That sorta fits perfectly IMO. I wouldn’t see it as “adorably forgiveable” though. He’d still have to be held accountable for treating Emma badly. Once he began growing up in our world, he had the chance to make choices, and made some wrong ones. Just like if Bae turned out to be Henry’s father, he’d have understandable reasons for being messed up in the head and not the best guy as a result, but he’d still have to be held accountable for treating Emma badly.

Clearly, he is going to be an important character, if he’s flying back and forth.

The way you worded that, totally made me think of Peter Pan. 😉 Seriously though, obviously he’s gonna be someone integral to the ongoing storyline if he’s expecting to be called back several times during the season. With a decent sized cast and several storylines going on though, he wouldn’t likely be in every ep, even if he’s a character like Bae, they won’t necessarily have him be the focus of every ep, coz they have other stories to tell as well.

[antbee]

@Josephine wrote:

Bee, this made me smile for some reason. I don’t know who he is, but it sounds good.

Aw, thanks. 😀 I feel weird stalking him through his Twitter, but I’m hoping he’ll reveal more information about his character since it seems like OUaT won’t. I also like how he tweets pretty regularly even if it’s nothing revealing about the show because many of the other cast members are also heavily into Twitter, so he should fit right in.

I have a feeling that whoever he is that he’ll be in Storybrooke first. I’m hoping as Emma’s ex and Henry’s father, but I don’t think they’ll introduced him this early. But like others have said, I’ve gotten it wrong a lot. I was convinced August was NOT Pinocchio because of the red hair. I thought all the clues were red herrings. So I have no idea who he’ll be.

I think he’ll be introduced in Storybrooke first. He just looks like a “modern” type of guy to me, not that he couldn’t do a period character, but I have a hard time picturing him in Fairy Tale Land as some kind of knight, lord, or whatever. That’s one of the main reasons that I think he’s Bae and/or Henry’s father because then I don’t think he’ll have to do that many if any scenes in the past/or in Fairy Tale Land. I know it’s not a very logical reason at all. 😆

I wouldn’t think they would introduce Bae and/or Henry’s dad this early either, but I didn’t expect them to break the curse this soon. So I guess there’s still a chance that he could turn out to be either one or both.

They are SO messing with us. Stupid ‘mysterious-man’ label!

They totally are. It’s so frustrating, and we haven’t even gotten any pictures of him in Storybrooke just hanging out with fans in his costume even though we know he’s already up there.

Beaman: I really think this is the Storybrooke counterpart of Hook, that a notorious pirate would be a real world antiques dealer that obtained some pieces through….questionable means.

I agree that Beaman is most likely going to be Hook’s Storybrooke counterpart because of his names and the description of his character.

Smee: I even think I suggested this at first, thinking he had to tie in with Hook (and that MJR would make a cool pirate based on what I’ve seen him in). Really though, Smee is comic relief. I’m not saying the actor couldn’t be a riot in a comedy, but I haven’t seen him in that role.

I think he could be funny, but I’m not sure if they would include Smee that often just for comic relief on the show. The show is small in the sense that there are only 6-7 main cast members (Emma, Henry, Snow, Charming, Regina, Rumple, and probably Belle), but there’s so many other characters now and so many other characters that they want to bring in that because whoever Michael Raymond-James is going to turn out to be is going to be on pretty regularly this season, I think he must be more important than as a sidekick like Smee.

Jack: He does have a swagger and since Jack is going to be a criminal: I could see it. Also, Jack sounds pretty layered as a character.

This is still my guess just based on his past roles because of the swagger that he’s shown, and the unfortunate fact that he’s been typecast as someone that’s usually a criminal. I don’t know why they won’t just come out and say that he’s Jack then. The only explanation that I can think of beyond the Bae/Henry’s dad mystery is that perhaps Dr. Whale or someone else is Peter Pan, but they want us to think that Michael Raymond-James’s character is going to be.

Peter Pan: Not my favorite option, but looking at the tree house picture…and the episode order, I am starting to wonder. I would be shocked to watch MJR on a sunday night, flying around in green tights…so maybe it’s a wonderful idea?

I would be shocked if he were Peter Pan too for the reasons you gave. I have to admit that they would totally be going in a different direction than what I usually imagine Peter Pan to be like, so I would have to give them credit for that. However, just imagining MRJ flying around in green tights is already sending me into fits of giggles. Plus, if he actually ever had to wear that iconic costume, I would just never be able to take his character seriously again.

The thing is, I would hate (if he is Peter Pan) that he was also Emma’s Ex, Baelfire, or all three. Baelfire landed in a world without magic and, since he probably had horrible experiences in our world like all the other FTL kids, the least they could give the character is a period of time without dealing with magic, fairies, and power-hungry adult males! About the Emma’s Ex part: I don’t want the excuse for whatever happened between them to just be, “Well gosh! He never grew up! Isn’t that just adorably forgivable?” No, it’s a cop-out! I’m even for Emma’s Ex being her true love, but that’s WAY DOWN THE LINE! Seasons away! I read too much into, “Well if true love was easy, then we’d all have it.”

It really is looking like he could turn out to be Peter, so I’m trying to be open to the idea. I don’t like it for the reasons that you don’t like the idea either. I expect Henry’s dad to be very immature or at least was back then, but I do think it’s a cop-out to give him the excuse that he is/was immature because he’s Peter Pan. Also, if Peter Pan is also Henry’s father, it might feel too much like they’re ripping off the movie Hook.

Plus, I would never be able to trust the show again if they had the Blue Fairy saying that Bae would go to a land without magic, but then he landed in Neverland just because the circumstances changed. If there was an indication back in season 1 that it could be true, I would be okay with it like I was okay with finding out the wardrobe actually could have held 2 people because it happened in the same season that they lead us into believing that it could only hold 1 person.

I was ready to finally admit that MJR is probably going to be Baelfire, Henry’s dad, Emma’s Ex, and Jack upon entering this forum today….but now I’m not sure. I assume Baelfire, Henry’s dad, and Emma’s Ex is going to be a pretty big character and in most, after he’s introduced, episodes. It doesn’t make sense, based on how central I thought Bae would be, that he would be flying back and forth for a season. Is that normal for main cast members? I don’t stalk their twitters. (probably should). Clearly, he is going to be an important character, if he’s flying back and forth.

I’ve never followed any actors’ schedules for a show until now because I always start watching a show where there’s big mysteries like OUaT after the show has been on awhile not while everyone is talking about the big mysteries, so I’m not sure how their schedules work either. It seems like it’s pretty easy for some of them to take off for a few days like Josh, Ginny, and Emilie based on recent pictures of them on their break time outside of Canada, so if he’s on their level of importance, which I would expect Bae and/or Henry’s dad to be, I guess it wouldn’t be that unusual for him to be in Vancouver mostly but to be able to fly back and forth for a few days at a time when they’re on a short break or there’s very little of him in an episode.

[hjbau]

And i think that for Emma and Snow the difficulty is that they know each other, so when they are in the room together especially alone without people watching them that they would be able to talk. That would be easier for Emma, because that is normal. It is just the whole family thing at large that is going to be too much. And when Emma thinks about the fact, at least at first, that Snow is her mother, that will be too much.

I mean they have both told each other things like about Snow and Whale or what happened with David. It isn’t just Emma that has told Snow things. Actually Snow comes off worse if you think about it, but that was the curse. And it is all extremely awkward, but i think they just have to relearn knowing each other especially because Snow is going to be a little bit different. In some ways she is like Mary Margaret or can be in certain moments, but in other ways she is not like her. Though people change.

And i agree that at first i imagine they are not going to focus on the Emma/Charming relationship at least until something happens where they are forced to interact a bit more. It all depends on what they do in the finale. What sort of danger they are in. If Charming helps with the danger. If he helps protect Henry. There are things that they can do there with Henry that will help the relationship with Emma, but i think at first that will not be a focus.

[lilred]

They are SO messing with us. Stupid ‘mysterious-man’ label!

The following is just based on seeing MJR in True Blood and Walking Dead: so it is somewhat limited in the scope of his acting, I’m sure.

Beaman: I really think this is the Storybrooke counterpart of Hook, that a notorious pirate would be a real world antiques dealer that obtained some pieces through….questionable means. 😎

Smee: I even think I suggested this at first, thinking he had to tie in with Hook (and that MJR would make a cool pirate based on what I’ve seen him in). Really though, Smee is comic relief. I’m not saying the actor couldn’t be a riot in a comedy, but I haven’t seen him in that role.

Jack: He does have a swagger and since Jack is going to be a criminal: I could see it. Also, Jack sounds pretty layered as a character. In True Blood: he definitely pulled off a highly layered man. Compassionate listener, understanding boyfriend, great with kids, loving brother but also a psychotic killer! 😯

Peter Pan: Not my favorite option, but looking at the tree house picture…and the episode order, I am starting to wonder. I would be shocked to watch MJR on a sunday night, flying around in green tights…so maybe it’s a wonderful idea? 😀

The thing is, I would hate (if he is Peter Pan) that he was also Emma’s Ex, Baelfire, or all three. Baelfire landed in a world without magic and, since he probably had horrible experiences in our world like all the other FTL kids, the least they could give the character is a period of time without dealing with magic, fairies, and power-hungry adult males! About the Emma’s Ex part: I don’t want the excuse for whatever happened between them to just be, “Well gosh! He never grew up! Isn’t that just adorably forgivable?” No, it’s a cop-out! 👿 I’m even for Emma’s Ex being her true love, but that’s WAY DOWN THE LINE! Seasons away! I read too much into, “Well if true love was easy, then we’d all have it.”

I was ready to finally admit that MJR is probably going to be Baelfire, Henry’s dad, Emma’s Ex, and Jack upon entering this forum today….but now I’m not sure. I assume Baelfire, Henry’s dad, and Emma’s Ex is going to be a pretty big character and in most, after he’s introduced, episodes. It doesn’t make sense, based on how central I thought Bae would be, that he would be flying back and forth for a season. Is that normal for main cast members? I don’t stalk their twitters. (probably should). Clearly, he is going to be an important character, if he’s flying back and forth.

I find it interesting that he is proud to have not fallen down yet during a scene. His character possibly has some action scenes??? Now, I’m going to the Peter Pan option again and thinking about MJR flying around Storybrooke in green tights!

[lilred]

I kind of like the idea of the Blue Fairy for a traitor…but since she is the leader of the fairies: wouldn’t most follow her? Do think it would be powerful to have a rift between the fairies at some point, especially after the interview revealed that BF is/was training Nova to be the future leader. Can definitely see a divide between the BF’s ‘greater good’ motives and a reformation of these ideas lead by Nova.

‘Turn against their own kind” has me thinking it isn’t just someone from the good side joining/spying for Regina (or another baddie): but turning against their species. Could it be a Dwarf? That doesn’t make sense to me, none of them would turn on Snow!

What would be interesting, IMHO, would be this being about Ariel. We know that both Snow and Emma were absent the first few days of filming (I think I read somewhere about water training?) What if their going to introduce Merpeople early on in the season (as allies or just ‘good’ guys) and Ariel befriends Snow/Emma. Although ‘we had come to believe could be trusted’ first had me thinking it had to be a character from season 1, since the Little Mermaid is a character some of us have known since childhood, won’t we assume she’s going to be a trustworthy friend of the ‘good guys’.

Her motives? Ever since it was revealed how young (and attractive) Hook is going to be, I’ve wondered if he could have another counterpart. Now, I kind of like the idea that he is also Prince Eric…without actually being a prince of course! The actor kind of looks like Eric. My first thought was Ariel turns against her own kind by falling in love and trying to help HOOK in whatever his motives are going to be. To add angst, they’ll work more from the Hans Christian Anderson story: he’ll just not be into her, possibly loves the desperate housewife from the bar, and Ariel will continually sacrifice and sacrifice for his well being: not sure if she’ll become sea foam at some point, but hopefully she’ll get over him in a few seasons….

Another thought, probably the most likely, would be Ariel made a deal with Regina and is now indebted to serve her. That will probably be it, if any of this….

[Slurpeez]

Phee wrote: Michael Raymond-James’ mystery character could be Jack of course, but again, why not just reveal that? Unless Jack is someone significant like Bae, whose face they’d wanna keep secret.

That’s an interesting point. Why go to the trouble of keeping the character identity secret unless he’s someone significant?

Phee wrote:Whoever else MRJ may be, I’m really starting to think that he’s (also) gonna be Henry’s father. With Charming seemingly easily stepping into a father figure role, judging by set pics, especially those new pics of them play sword fighting, it would add some tension to the storyline of that newly forming relationship if Henry’s bio-dad showed up in town around the same time. Oh wow, new crackpot theory…

I could definitely see a potential rivalry between PC and Henry’s birth-father, especially if the bio-dad turns out to be “no hero,” as Emma claimed. I just think that there’ll be a build-up over time. It seems like the writers would at least want to spread that story arch out over several episodes. Perhaps they’ll just introduce this guy as a new “stranger” scenario, but wait for the big reveal half-way through the season. We haven’t seen any footage of Jennifer Morrison or Ginny Goodwin for the filming of episode 2×2 or 2×3, leading many to speculate their characters are missing from SB. Perhaps with Emma out of town and Henry in PC’s care, that opens the door of possibility for Henry’s dad to appear on the scene without fear of Emma identifying him. Then, when Emma returns, the big reveal will happen. ❗ I actually love this theory!

Elle wrote:Belle (I think) won’t betray anyone, either. True she may be darker in season 2, but I don’t think it will be to the point of where she will betray everyone. She deeply loves Rumpelstiltskin, and it makes no sense that she would help the woman who imprisoned her–unless Regina was somehow able to control her without her knowledge.

I wasn’t suggesting that Belle would try and betray Rumpelstiltskin to Regina. Rather, if it suited Rumpel’s plans to betray everyone else in SB (like the Charmings), he’d do it for his son’s sake, and Belle could become his accomplice. We’ve already seen him create the dark curse to follow his son to our world. Rumpel’s on his own side, against Regina and possibly against everyone else. It could quick become a “every man-for-himself” scenario.

Elle wrote:I can’t picture The Blue Fairy. No matter how much damage she had done, she still has helped in the battle against Regina. It wouldn’t make sense for her to suddenly change sides–though we have seen her to do what she feels is best for everyone. She may feel the need to turn on everyone for what she deems to be the greater good.

I don’t think the BF would side with Regina either; after all, we saw the BF go to great lengths to commission a wardrobe for Emma, the savior. The BF could, however, totally have her own secret agenda. One theory is that the BF wanted Rumpel to create the dark curse, because the Enchanted Forest was running out of magic. Everyone knows Rumpel has a lot of power, but the BF is called the “original power” for a reason, although we don’t yet know exactly what that means. In her own mind, she could be acting for the “greater good” but the other fairy-tale characters might not view that way, and thus would consider it a “betrayal.” Again, just a theory.

Phee wrote:We know August saw her in Storybrooke before he went to see Mr Gold. I believe that it was a case of Pinocchio tracking down BF, someone powerful who he’d known personally in FTL, someone who had helped him before, because he was at a loss about what to do next and needed advice. Lucky for him, she had her memories and some information for him.

That makes total sense. I’ve always thought the BF kept her memories in tact by using her own magic to ward off the effects of the dark curse. Those may have been her last minute “preparations” just before the curse reached the castle.

Elle wrote:But Hook could be the one that turns people against one another–they are building him up to be a smart villain. He could be the one to trick one of the characters.

That’s a very interesting theory. From the casting call description, Captain Hook is supposed to have the manners of an old-school gentleman but is also supposed to be ruthless. It’d be interesting if he tries to befriend Snow’s gang and then betrays them all to Regina. I could totally see Regina being seduced by this cunning pirate, who could also play Regina for his own purposes against Rumpelstiltskin. (I have a theory that Rumpel and Hook are rivals going back centuries because Hook stole Rumpel’s wife). The one downside to this theory is that the spoiler says the Benedict Arnold betrays his/her “own kind”, and though Hook is from a fairy-tale, he comes from Neverland and not the Enchanted Forest. We’ll see.

AntBee wrote:Yes, I didn’t like Rumple taunting Regina like that because it certainly seemed like something that would come back to haunt him now that they’re still trapped in Storybrooke, and Regina has her magic too now.

Now that the dark curse has been broken, it may be possible for everyone to leave SB. Just because Rumpel brought magic to town, doesn’t necessarily mean the characters are trapped. Perhaps magic will spread beyond the town boarders to the rest of the world. That could be what brings Baelfire to town as he tracks the source of magic! If he’s still alive, he’d certainly recognize the use of magic to be from another world, and he’s probably want to know how it came to a land without magic. 💡

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[princess emma]

Princess Emma here! curtsy back! welcome to the Enchanted Forext Srorybrooke