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Jefferson said that Grace’s mother died because of him, somehow in connection with Wonderland. The way he said it, I immediately assumed Alice was her mother. It may or may not be true. And she may or may not really be dead. I don’t think her being a child in the original story means she couldn’t have grown up and married the Hatter and had his child. I also don’t think that him becoming mad after his wife died proves that he hasn’t met Alice yet. Nothing can be proven based on the original stories after all, because they take so much license with them. However, they are guides for the show. And it’s entirely possible that he truly hasn’t met Alice yet.
While watching I also had another thought–that Alice might have eventually become the Queen of Hearts somehow. That’s just a throw away idea though. I don’t see how it could’ve happened.
[adrotate group="5"]What was it he said about the person who could bottle true love? That it would make them the most powerful or something?
He may not have a particular spell in mind to break. He may have done it just to be the best.
I really like the peter pan idea, conceptually. But I don’t want Peter Pan to be the grown up August, with a BEARD. That is just so wrong! The real Peter Pan would be horrified just to loose one baby tooth!
So I’m leaning more toward InfinityPalm’s Baelfire theory, which I must say is very well thought out! I really like that one. The only questions I have are 1) how do you explain his age only changing a bit over so many centuries and 2) why exactly would Baelfire escape to our world?
I keep thinking and thinking about this and the more I do the more I realize you really can’t know anything with this show. So I’m throwing up my hands. I’m just gonna watch and see.
HAHAHA! Slush!!! That is fantastic! 😆 Some one should tweet that to Lana P. I think she’d enjoy it too. xD
A chaise, mia?
I don’t know if I explained myself very well. I don’t think that everyone got to consciously pick their names in Storybrooke or anything. Just that the curse apparently decided to use some people’s aliases, which were aliases chosen by them. So in a way some of them got to choose their names. I just think that’s interesting.
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The box was most definitely one of Regina’s. It had the same logo as Henry Sr.’s grave (SB) and the one on top of the door to the room of hearts (FTL).
Emma has seen those logos, hasn’t she? She could recognize them and/or investigate them and they aren’t hidden so that would prove that Regina was involved. Yikes. That’s like writing a ransom note with “From the desk of [the ransomer’s name]” on it!
Oh, and I also believe those are Snow’s prints from FTL. I’m sure at some point she handled that box. Heck, maybe the poison apple was inside it. Or maybe it was her jewelry box, like someone said. But it would also be easy enough to get MM’s fingerprints in SB and transfer them to the box–that happens in lots of spy shows.
Yes, if you look at the screenshot you can see how it’s mixed. The HEEL is the boot part of the print.
I also think it’s interesting that she doesn’t recognize the print as her own at that point. But maybe that’s because they stopped there. If she had gone further she probably would’ve seen that it was a woman’s smaller shoe and size.
I would like to add that the writers also did a great job setting us up with tracks that led back to her window. Although, I don’t understand how a hunting party could not follow those tracks as easily as she and SW did, especially in the snow; and was it such a novel idea to follow them during the day? Or did Granny go out and wipe them out normally? I don’t know, once I thought about it that just seemed rather weird, even though I know it goes to the FTL story.
hahaha. Exactly. When they were planning to go out and kill the wolf I was like, “Helloooooo. Why don’t you just give the hunters that plan, you two dumb girls?” I know that “If you want something done right, do it yourself.” But seriously, sometimes you do have to leave it up to the experts. Even if they weren’t smart enough to think of that themselves (their leader was obviously a coward too–talking about how he left them and trying to cover it up with that lame explanation!) they were still better fighters than her and Snow, surely? And they could’ve at least come for backup. Jeez!
Least favorite: The foot. The foot. The foot!!! Oh god.
Favorite: One was Henry teasing her about being a bike messenger. I don’t think the walking line was necessary. I think the basket comment was enough. I laughed. I love that kid.
Ruby in the woods with Emma, going into hunting mode. That was awesome. It made me SO disappointed when she went back to the diner. That is so lame in comparison to getting to somehow use her sensitive hearing and smell for something. 🙁 But I liked the scene with Granny because she has a very mature conversation with her that allows them to bond. It was sweet and I like it when character’s grow.
I feel really bad saying this (because I’m so disgusted by what happened) but I really love that Ruby is the wolf. I honestly didn’t see it coming because of Dr. Whale. I thought it meant something that he was talking to Ruby at the bus stop. It made me imagine things. Even though I didn’t believe he was the wolf I was willing to let the writers show me I was wrong. I was also willing to believe Peter was the wolf. They set that up well. And I was thinking of the original story too. So I didn’t suspect Ruby! I’m kicking myself for that now. But it was really fun to be truly surprised this time. It was terrrrrrrible that she killed the man she loved. My heart is THOROUGHLY beaten by that. I can’t figure out how she forgives herself by the time that she’s bringing Snow food in the woods. SHE should be the one that got the forget potion from Rumple. Seriously, the foot!!!!! Oh god. I have to stop picturing that.
In the chat just now we talked about how Emma told him to “go home”–while he was in this comatose state–so we thought he may have been looking for his real home. Which obviously wasn’t anywhere for him to find. It makes sense for him to leave the town and look around the woods because the woods are the same and familiar so he might get his bearings there.
When I watched it before I knew he was comatose I thought he was there for the same reason as MM–to look for Kathryn. To see if she’s collapsed somewhere or find her dead body or at least find some kind of CLUE. It makes sense to me that after talking to Emma he would do that. It also makes sense to me that MM would do that. What I can’t figure out is why Emma didn’t arrange a real search party herself. MM said a lot that he didn’t understand in that state but she did specifically talk about looking for Katherine and that’s when he responded, “I’m looking.”
I think either he could’ve been looking for either thing.
