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September 17, 2014 at 9:03 pm #282698
In reply to: Storybrooke Jobs: Who Does What…
Gaultheria
ParticipantKristoff- No clue right now…any suggestions for him?
Animal shelter guy and department store Santa!
Mulan: I really think we need to up the Storybrooke police department! Emma and David can’t do all the work themselves…and Mulan knows how to fight!
At night, Mulan could also run the kind of nightclub that doesn’t advertise itself in any particular way but everyone still knows who the target market is.
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September 17, 2014 at 8:01 pm #282695In reply to: Storybrooke Jobs: Who Does What…
MatthewPaul
ModeratorMaurice/Moe French – Flower shop owner
Magic Mirror/Sidney Glass – Storybrooke Mirror Reporter
Zelena – Guess posing as a midwife kinda counts.
Gus/Billy – Was an auto mechanic
Woodcutter/Michael Tillman – Worked with Billy at the same auto shop
Sleepy – Works at the hospital as security. Fell asleep on the job before.
Ms. Ginger (Was supposed to be the same Blind Witch from Hansel & Gretel and is in the flashback for “The Thing You Love Most”, but the opted to replace her with another Blind Witch played by Emma Caulfield) – Teacher
Mr. Krzyszkowski – Town Records Keeper
King George/Albert Spencer – District Attorney
Cinderella/Ashley Boyd – I recall she also works for Granny’s. She was working in the laundry room in “Price of Gold”, and I believe she walks out wearing a Granny’s Diner outfit in the Wonderland pilot.
Dr. Thatcher – Veterinarian who runs the animal shelter.
Frederick/Jim – Gym TeacherSeptember 17, 2014 at 7:25 pm #282692In reply to: Storybrooke Jobs: Who Does What…
WickedRegal
ParticipantMajority of Storybrooke Residents have at least 30 years of experience in their position, the newcomers that have arrived such as the Merry Men, Phillip & Aurora, Mulan, and even the upcoming Elsa, Anna, Kristoff, and Maleficent. I wonder what their jobs could be?
Elsa – Obviously some position of power, queenly status and all….I’d love if Elsa became the Storybrooke School Principle.
Anna- Like her sister, I can see Anna working in a school. Perhaps becoming one of their teachers, who all of the students love! Can definitely see Elsa and Anna working together like that.
Kristoff- No clue right now…any suggestions for him? 😛
Maleficent- A Flower shop owner….I know, but because of her love for thorns….I just said what they hey! 🙂
Aurora: Any suggestions? 😛
Phillip: Firefighter! He has experience battling things fiery….
Mulan: I really think we need to up the Storybrooke police department! Emma and David can’t do all the work themselves…and Mulan knows how to fight!
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September 17, 2014 at 6:50 pm #282680In reply to: Love and Romance on OUAT: What's the Message?
MatthewPaul
ModeratorOkay, I think I know what the problem is here and I don’t think it has to do with Adam and Eddy’s writing, but what we’re trying to do here; which is look for a general theme about love that fits all couples on the show.
Which is impossible to do because not every couple is the same. There is overlapping of themes, but not everyone is the same. Even Emma said that her life experience is different from their parents and its going to be that way with every character.
But this is still a very good discussion to have.
Going to have to agree with this, because I feel like asking “what is the general message about love” is too broad of a question, and as this thread has shown, not everybody agrees on what that can be based on their own experiences, morals and interpretations. It’s easy to say “well if Adam and Eddy can’t give a basic answer, then it’s bad writing”, but then again should we really be talking when we so far can’t even come up with a uniform answer that pleases everyone? Also Adam and Eddy’s answer to this question (if they have one) may have already been guessed in this thread, but that’s not going to stop someone from disagreeing with it.
September 17, 2014 at 6:35 pm #282677In reply to: Love and Romance on OUAT: What's the Message?
RumplesGirl
KeymasterOkay, I think I know what the problem is here and I don’t think it has to do with Adam and Eddy’s writing, but what we’re trying to do here; which is look for a general theme about love that fits all couples on the show. Which is impossible to do because not every couple is the same. There is overlapping of themes, but not everyone is the same. Even Emma said that her life experience is different from their parents and its going to be that way with every character. But this is still a very good discussion to have.
It doesn’t even have to fit all the couples on the show. It has to fit the show. We briefly touched on friendship love and we could talk about parental love as well. It doesn’t have to be romance.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"September 17, 2014 at 6:31 pm #282675In reply to: Love and Romance on OUAT: What's the Message?
obisgirl
ParticipantOkay, I think I know what the problem is here and I don’t think it has to do with Adam and Eddy’s writing, but what we’re trying to do here; which is look for a general theme about love that fits all couples on the show.
Which is impossible to do because not every couple is the same. There is overlapping of themes, but not everyone is the same. Even Emma said that her life experience is different from their parents and its going to be that way with every character.
But this is still a very good discussion to have.
September 17, 2014 at 5:55 pm #282663In reply to: Love and Romance on OUAT: What's the Message?
PriceofMagic
ParticipantMy overarching point is not to bash any single ship but rather to help show something we all know which is our shipping bias. But more than that, once again, what the HECK IS THE MORAL OF ONCE UPON A TIME WHEN IT COMES TO LOVE AND ROMANCE?!?!?!??!?! *RG is tired*
Perhaps the question shouldn’t be what is THE moral of love and romance on Once but what is A moral of love and romance on Once? I don’t think there is any one moral of love and romance on Once. It isn’t one size fits all.
For example: Captain Swan. It is a very divisive ship. Some love it, some hate it and some aren’t bothered either way. What’s their moral? That if your persistent enough, eventually your quarry will give in to your demands? That if you continuously reaffirm your love and devotion to another, eventually they’ll reciprocate? That two people share chemistry so why not put them together?
On a thread about What’s the message of love and romance on Once, it’s impossible to completely not bring shipping into it because shipping is love. It’s the love the fans have for a particular pairing, everyone has their OTP and crack!pairings. Why do you like a particular couple but not another? Everyone takes a different message from Once.
For example, you can ask a CSer why they like CS over SF and you can ask a SF why they like SF over CS. Both will give different responses based on their interpretations and both will probably give the same answer but in opposite ways. For example, the CSer might say they love how Hook never gave up on Emma even when she was pushing him away, whilst the SFer might say that they hate how Hook continued to pursue Emma even when she told him she wasn’t interested.
Nobody is going to ship a couple that they feel have a “bad” message attached to them. We all have our own OTP on the show. What is the message YOU take away from Once when it comes to love and romance?
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Keeper of FelixSeptember 17, 2014 at 5:25 pm #282660In reply to: The Captain Swan thread!
Bo-Peeps
Participant(surayya, the most sour grapes make the very best whines, dontcha know?)
Yes on the chart! On the more populous and expansive Internet sites, ONCE is enjoying a very healthy fandom that is excited for the approaching new season. Specific to our group(ies) here, Captain Swan has always been very popular and continues to grow. Rumplestiltskin still enjoys quite the cult following and Regina is still a passionate Goddess. The lifeblood of a series is the general public who tune in. ONCE remains quite healthy. The vast majority of fans don’t analyze like we of the Internet Boggling communities do. They just tune in and enjoy the creative ride.
The introduction of the Frozen story line may have been a stroke of brilliance after all. Here’s hoping a lot of the posters who flocked away due to *everything ONCE* negativity in many other threads here, come back when we get on with the story and the adventures as Adam and Eddie want to tell them.
Outside the thimble of Internet fan forums, the general public still calls the shots. And they are positive and excited.
As far as Happy Domesticated downtime, I prefer that Hook and Emma go on a dozen rip roaring adventures as the Dynamic Duo of Storybrooke and Beyond that test their love, their commitment and our patience! Drama is…well drama. I like them lusty and sassy… and super connected 🙂
***Always in search of a good flock***
September 17, 2014 at 5:20 pm #282658In reply to: Love and Romance on OUAT: What's the Message?
PriceofMagic
ParticipantWe’ve seen in S1 and S3, when Emma and Regina each broke a curse with TL kiss with Henry, so in OUAT-verse, we have learned TL is not limited to romantic love.
My question on this though is you’re only meant to have one true love at any one time. So if Emma was able to TLK Henry in season 1 and now Regina has TLK him in season 3, does that mean TLK between Emma and Henry no longer works? Plus since TLK has to be a two-way thing, does that mean that Henry doesn’t truly love Emma any more or vice versa?
While I don’t think Snow’s desire to have another child because they missed out on raising Emma is as heinous as some do, I DO have a huge problem with Snow’s declaration that she would stay in NL with Charming as opposed to return to SB with Emma.
The problem isn’t so much that Snow wanted another child, the problem is that her reasons seemed less “I’d like the chance to actually be a mother and raise a child” and more “You’re not cute and cuddly anymore Emma, I want another child that I can play mom to since you grew up”. Snow even said that the current relationship she has with Emma is “not what I wanted” just because Emma isn’t all touchy feely with her. Snow was basically telling her own daughter, who has massive trust and abandonment issues, that the relationship they share isn’t good enough for her. It seemed like Snow was blaming Emma for not getting the chance to be her mother.
Outlaw Queen — the ‘because the pixie dust told me so’ justification is, indeed, weak. I think I can buy Outlaw Queen, not because pixie dust says they’re TL, but because they ARE in the beginning of a relationship. It’s new and until Marian came back, they hadn’t moved past the ‘honeymoon stage’ where everything is roses and wonderful and love is love and blah blah let’s-make-everyone-around-us-vomit. I do buy the instant attraction – and even the snippets of the lost year in the EF that we’ve seen show 2 people who are attracted to each other, though begrudgingly. I don’t buy they’re actually in love yet, because I don’t buy the whole pixie dust is omniscient spiel. And they’re obviously about to hit a huge….hurdle….in their relationship.
We might get some more missing year scenes between Robin and Regina to show why they wee so drawn to each other. However what bothers me most about them is that Robin was completely unbothered by the fact that Regina was “the evil Queen”. There wasn’t even a stage where he was a bit wary of her but okay with her when he got to know her. He knew she was the evil Queen as well but he just jumped into “you’re hot” territory. Also it just seemed to be a bit unrealistic that Regina would give her heart to Robin as easily as she did considering that, as far as she remembered, she’d never met him before and Storybrooke was the first time they had interacted. Within a couple of days, Regina is willing to leave her heart in the hands of some guy who doesn’t really have any way to protect it other than hiding it within camp.
3A Regina was great, 3B Regina was almost annoying especially when it seemed like her whole “redemption” was only because she was in love with Robin. Like Rumple, Regina can never be fully good, it just doesn’t suit them.
RumBelle — Belle, Belle, Belle. I do actually find this relationship toxic.
I really disagree with this.
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Keeper of FelixSeptember 17, 2014 at 11:52 am #282657In reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire
RumplesGirl
KeymasterIf the writers had wanted to tell a really bold story, then they would have left Rumple stay dead (don’t hate me),
As someone who has adored Rumple since the first moment we saw him, I’d have been totally OK with him staying dead because it was a beautiful way for them to end that character’s arc, showing him finally get to the point where he could do the selfless thing for the sake of the town and his son. All of those options you suggested would indeed classify as a bold storyline, so much missed opportunity for compelling storytelling.
Exactly. I’ve been a huge Rumple fan since the start and I would have been okay with his death but it made narrative sense.
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