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[surayya]

Not sure if this has been posted here or not yet (it’s dated the 16th…):
Q) What will Emma and Hook’s dating life be like on Once Upon a Time? — Val.
A) The good news: The producers are going to let them go out somewhere other than Granny’s Diner. The bad news: “It’s going to be tricky for the two of them,” executive producer Adam Horowitz says. “Just because we saw their feelings reach a new level at the end of last season doesn’t mean that that’s the end of the story.” And Emma may be the problem. “Emma is obviously a person who has a tough time trusting people and letting her guard down,” executive producer Edward Kitsis says. “Sometimes you may feel something for somebody but your feelings hold you back.”
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mega-Buzz-Once-Upon-Time-Sleepy-Hollow-1086987.aspx

[RumplesGirl]

Wanna know what would have been bold storytelling? Killing the savior, to save everyone, since on s3 the only thing she made was playing the victim card while Rumple, Regina and Neal did all the things, that would have been bold story telling. And the end of ship wars, no more Cs, Sf or Sq.

If Emma is any kind of Savior, she’ll die soon.

She’ll come back of course…but…

Happy Wednesday! Extant series finale tonight!

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[RumplesGirl]

Wanna know what would have been bold storytelling? Killing the savior, to save everyone, since on s3 the only thing she made was playing the victim card while Rumple, Regina and Neal did all the things, that would have been bold story telling. And the end of ship wars, no more Cs, Sf or Sq.

If Emma is any kind of Savior, she’ll die soon.

She’ll come back of course…but…

Happy Wednesday! Extant series finale tonight!

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Slurpeez]

It smacks of justifying that a good woman whose “crime” was falling in love and becoming a mother gets the death sentence (twice), and I just don’t like that.

If the writers wanted to tell ay real bold story, they would let Marian live and let Regina face the realistic consequences of her being a murderous tyrant in the past–that she killed a little boy’s mom and now has to live with the fact that Robin loves and chooses his wife. Instead of her going all sorts of crazy angry Evil Queen, she could start to point the finger at herself for her own choices instead of at other characters like Emma. If the writers had wanted to tell a really bold story, then they would have left Rumple stay dead (don’t hate me), after he made a self-sacrifice to keep his family safe. That way he really would’ve died a hero, rather than coming back even darker than before. Another really bold story choice would be to let Hook be the one to make a sacrifice for the sake of Baelfire, the boy he once wronged, but actually loved like a son. Sure, any and all of those options would risk the wrath of fans of Regina/Rumple/Hook, but it would be more interesting to watch these characters actually redeem themselves after seeing the consequences of their actions and then doing something to correct their ways. That would actually make the show more interesting than having to watch the same old “they’re-just-misunderstood” dance routine.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

RumplesGirl wrote:

Josephine wrote:

Limited run series that just end in confusion

WHY WAS BLACKBEARD STANDING ON THAT BEACH?!

ohmaigah. you found a Blackbeard gif. BLESS YOU.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[RumplesGirl]

Good point…but I think you have to put it in context…you mentioned that these characters are in our world…but are they really? Or are they living in some kind of cross-land that happens to inhabit our world? Meaning – even in Kansas (I think) they mentioned the sheriff’s office’s security was on beta (hehehe) but they have other modern day technologies, like cell phones…the clothes are somewhat modern but Rumple and Regina’s cars are not…only what? 3 of them can cross the town line without losing their memories? So…while they are technically here, I don’t know that our laws/ethics completely apply…I think in EF, if you truly are repentant, you are technically redeemed…so therefore, I think I give a little more leeway to the villains, provided they are ACTUALLY repentant and redeemed.

Ah, think about this: even if they are in some sort of cross-land doesn’t that mean that the reality and fantasy should be given equal weight? I cannot dismiss an act of violence because a fairy tale character did it, but condemn a non-fairy tale character for doing the same thing simply because “not mythic.” It’s segregation. This is like super extreme but follow me: how long until the non-fairy tale characters are rounded up for being inferior and put into ghettos? Everyone is equal under the law unless we want to start saying that some people are more entitled to privilege than others.

n regard to lies of omission…Belle is kind of off on her own…but in regard to Robin and Emma – yes, each relationship needs to confront a major issue. Personally, I feel Regina’s almost-killing Marian is more difficult to overcome for obvious reasons….Hook’s actions regarding Ariel aren’t pretty but in the end, she did find Eric and I admit, I can justify his choosing his ship over some girl he just met….(and yes, conceding the CS/Hook goggles are on when I say that so I know there are lots of arguments against the same! No ill feelings toward any anti-Hookers or CSers! No tears from our Keymaster intended!!! 🙂 )

Let’s just stay with this in the general sense then because all three relationships at present have the “what happens if the lie is discovered” aspect at play.

Option 1.A

Belle learns that Rumple killed Zelena and decides she doesn’t care. @Jenna_B said, and others like @Myril and @Gaultheria have said in this thread that makes her equally guilty and “bad” as Rumple who committed the actual crime.

Option 1.B

Belle learns that Rumple killed Zelena and leaves Rumple because he lied and clearly hasn’t changed. This is obviously the better option. But what happens if she goes back, is it one more strike and your out? How many strikes? How many mistakes before Rumple’s a lost cause?

Option 2. A

Emma learns that during the lost year, Hook killed Blackbeard for his ship and decides she doesn’t care. How can we, on the one hand, condemn Belle for not caring and place equal culpability at her door, but not do the same with Emma? Granted, Hook and Emma were not in a relationship, but should Emma not care at all that the man she’s dating (and whom she lets her son hang out with) has murdered someone very recently? (yes, this works with regards to Emma and Henry with Rumple too…but that’s a thread for another day, coming eventually…)

Option 2.B

Pretty much the exact same thing, only replace Belle with Emma and Rumple with Hook.

Option 3.A

Robin learns that Regina killed Marian in an aborted timeline and that the only reason Marian is not dead now is because of Emma. Further, he learns that Regina is going after Marian again (and possibly Emma for “ruining” her happy ending). Robin decides he doesn’t care, cause soul mates. Again, how can we lay equal culpability at Belle’s door for not caring, but not have it carry over in this situation?

Option 3.B

You know the drill.

My overarching point is not to bash any single ship but rather to help show something we all know which is our shipping bias. But more than that, once again, what the HECK IS THE MORAL OF ONCE UPON A TIME WHEN IT COMES TO LOVE AND ROMANCE?!?!?!??!?! *RG is tired*

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Ranisha Pitts]

Josephine wrote:

Limited run series that just end in confusion

WHY WAS BLACKBEARD STANDING ON THAT BEACH?!

 

"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."

[Jenna_B]

Jenna_B wrote:

I’m hoping we see the show re-focus on Henry as a central character, since everyone and their mother is related to the kid, and watch various characters’ relationships with Henry develop – primarily his relationship with Rumple.

*snarky RG comment here that is only acceptable because @Jenna_B and I like each other*

Haha!  Hey, now, you know my comment about Rumple & Henry is only because it’s what’s possible based on canon!  I may not ship SF romantically, but I still haven’t forgiven A&E for taking away a beautiful co-parenting friendship, my favorite BroTP and most importantly, an awesome break the Stiltskin cycle father-son relationship!!  GRRRRRR….but happier thoughts, happier thoughts…

Yes, this is something to take into consideration. The characters are mostly archetypes and exist in a mythic way, meaning that their actions match what we expect “villains” and anti heroes do in a mythic realm. HOWEVER, this is a show about those mythic figures existing in our reality, so I can’t dissociate entirely from their actions because it gives those characters–Regina, Hook, Rumple–license to do whatever they want simply because “they are fairy tale characters”

Good point…but I think you have to put it in context…you mentioned that these characters are in our world…but are they really?  Or are they living in some kind of cross-land that happens to inhabit our world?  Meaning – even in Kansas (I think) they mentioned the sheriff’s office’s security was on beta (hehehe) but they have other modern day technologies, like cell phones…the clothes are somewhat modern but Rumple and Regina’s cars are not…only what?  3 of them can cross the town line without losing their memories?  So…while they are technically here, I don’t know that our laws/ethics completely apply…I think in EF, if you truly are repentant, you are technically redeemed…so therefore, I think I give a little more leeway to the villains, provided they are ACTUALLY repentant and redeemed.

I…hesitate here because this is not a defend your ship thread and if it turns into this I’m going cry. And we all know I don’t ship CS. So this is going to brief and with the understanding that I’m respond to the overall idea not bashing the ship. But, there is a difference between learning that your partner doesn’t actually like your lasagna or prefers a certain kind of laundry detergent and learning that your partner has committed the kind of crimes Hook/Rumple/Regina have.

In regard to lies of omission…Belle is kind of off on her own…but in regard to Robin and Emma – yes, each relationship needs to confront a major issue.  Personally, I feel Regina’s almost-killing Marian is more difficult to overcome for obvious reasons….Hook’s actions regarding Ariel aren’t pretty but in the end, she did find Eric and I admit, I can justify his choosing his ship over some girl he just met….(and yes, conceding the CS/Hook goggles are on when I say that so I know there are lots of arguments against the same!  No ill feelings toward any anti-Hookers or CSers!  No tears from our Keymaster intended!!! 🙂 )

[obisgirl]

Eddy is such a troll.  Make a bet, that at some point when Emma and Hook finally have a moment to breathe next season, they will stay home and watch a movie and end up cuddling together on the couch and Emma will fall asleep in his arms.

I remember when Adam teased, “It’s not like they’re going to suddenly go to order Chinese and watch Netflix.” [x]

And then the first image of Jen and Colin together at SDCC, it was Colin feeding Jen.

Dinner with Emma & Hook the night before comic con. #OnceUponATime #Season4! pic.twitter.com/An0i3PFaAf

— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) July 26, 2014

[RumplesGirl]

To me, A&E have used the last three seasons to define concepts integral to the overall story. We have defined ‘family,’ ‘hope,’ and ‘home’ – which, to me are the 3 biggest concepts so far

I am about to agree and disagree. I think HOME and FAMILY have been more or less clearly defined. Home and family go hand in hand on ONCE and as long as you one, you have the other. It’s a basic, bare bones definition that hasn’t been nuanced the way those terms and concepts are in real life, but I’m more willing to let this one slide since the show isn’t concerned with modern complexities in this regard.

Hope…is whatever Adam and Eddy decide it is in that episode because hope in what exactly? In love? In family? In happy endings? In heroes? In good? In not getting caught when you do something bad? In pre-S1, Emma’s label for her character poster was both “The Savior” and “The Hope.” Is Emma the definition of hope?

Next, I think we’re going to take those concepts to further look at the concept of ‘true love

It’s not even the concept of true love I’m concerned with.It’s just LOVE. Friendship love which has become almost invisible. Parental love which is probably the most well defined on the show because it’s a very BASIC love–except they complicate it with Cora/Regina, Pan/Rumple, ect.

I’m hoping we see the show re-focus on Henry as a central character, since everyone and their mother is related to the kid, and watch various characters’ relationships with Henry develop – primarily his relationship with Rumple.

*snarky RG comment here that is only acceptable because @Jenna_B and I like each other* 😉

Which is probably why I don’t tend to have the same issues with the villains that some do. Yes, if we ran into Rumple, Regina or Hook in our world, we wouldn’t be forgiving of them AT ALL. However, when you look at their actions in the context of the EF, for me, they’re a little more acceptable. I think Regina and Hook have worked far more diligently to redeem themselves than Rumple. Yes, they’ve backslid and no, neither one is by any means a saint. But I think their desire to turn their lives around for those they love is far stronger than Rumple’s. So –

Yes, this is something to take into consideration. The characters are mostly archetypes and exist in a mythic way, meaning that their actions match what we expect “villains” and anti heroes do in a mythic realm. HOWEVER, this is a show about those mythic figures existing in our reality, so I can’t dissociate entirely from their actions because it gives those characters–Regina, Hook, Rumple–license to do whatever they want simply because “they are fairy tale characters”

The more I think about it, those decisions are almost as bad as some of the decisions the villains have made….(probably unpopular thought, I know)

People might not agree with this in particular, but the more we talk, the more people are opening up that they do find Snowing to be VERY problematic, especially in regards to Emma and their idea of parenting.

I’ve been with my husband for 7 years; I know the kind of person he is, and I know most of his stories and what makes him the person he is, but I certainly don’t know everything. In every kind of relationship, you are constantly learning about the other person.

I…hesitate here because this is not a defend your ship thread and if it turns into this I’m going cry. And we all know I don’t ship CS. So this is going to brief and with the understanding that I’m respond to the overall idea not bashing the ship. But, there is a difference between learning that your partner doesn’t actually like your lasagna or prefers a certain kind of laundry detergent and learning that your partner has committed the kind of crimes Hook/Rumple/Regina have.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"