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October 23, 2016 at 10:01 pm #329128
In reply to: Will Emma Use the Shears?
MatthewPaul
ModeratorThe big question is if the effects of the shears can be undone. We’ve seen Emma lose her magic before back in 3B, but eventually she was able to regain it. Could the same be the case with Aladdin?
[adrotate group="5"]October 23, 2016 at 9:40 pm #329124In reply to: Will Emma Use the Shears?
AKA
ParticipantI don’t think it has anything to do with his haircut (which is an external, out of universe event that had to be addressed in show) but I do think that if the shears resurface, it won’t be for Emma but perhaps for Rumple who will use them to cut his own fate as the Dark One somehow. Oh gosh. Does it cleave him from the dagger?
I am just looking at it as a metaphor maybe, Rumple cuts his hair is symbolic of him trying to change his fate. I don’t think the end game will be anything other than TLK breaking his dark one curse finally. Either Rumple will die sacrificing himself for his family or at the very end they will have a true Beauty and the Beast break the curse moment, or maybe they will combine both.
October 23, 2016 at 9:33 pm #329123AKA
ParticipantI thought the episode was okay, I give it a 7/10
Liked:
Zelena, I love almost every scene she is in, and I love that she turned Archie back into a cricket, maybe he will be good luck for Robin (Mulan)
Emma and Henry in the crypt. I thought that was beautiful and what the show is all about.
Hook being a little shady if I am going to have to watch hook this is how I prefer him and I also I think he is ultimately looking out for Emma
Mixed:
I am somewhat interested in how Jasmine and Aladdin will play out? I was just confused and there are still so many unanswered questions, why did Jasmine end up in the land of untold stories? Why does Jasmine need Aladdin to save Agraba if it has already fallen and how does she know the fate of Agraba at this time? Is she really interested in him romantically or does she just need him to defeat Jafar?
I thought the crypt death of Aladdin was very predictable
Like magic locator spell, okay whatever
No major dislikes per say just blah, I guess after last week’s episode this was a let down
October 23, 2016 at 9:27 pm #329122In reply to: Will Emma Use the Shears?
RumplesGirl
KeymasterI just think it’s weird that they again mentioned Rumple’s haircut in this episode and then introduced shears that can cut your fate.
I don’t think it has anything to do with his haircut (which is an external, out of universe event that had to be addressed in show) but I do think that if the shears resurface, it won’t be for Emma but perhaps for Rumple who will use them to cut his own fate as the Dark One somehow. Oh gosh. Does it cleave him from the dagger?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 23, 2016 at 9:22 pm #329121In reply to: Will Emma Use the Shears?
AKA
ParticipantNo, I don’t think Emma will use the shears. I think at some point and time she will be tempted to use them but will resist and decide she is going to defeat the fate and be an even stronger savior.
Did anyone see a similarity between the shears and the last episode in which Rumple cuts his hair. I just think it’s weird that they again mentioned Rumple’s haircut in this episode and then introduced shears that can cut your fate.
October 23, 2016 at 9:19 pm #329120RumplesGirl
Keymaster–I’m really disappointed that Aladdin used the Shears. I guess he serves as a foil to Emma but there’s still no advancement in the Savior mythos; Aladdin has nothing to offer Emma except a way out.
Or a way to activate all of the potential saviors for the finale!
Oh sure. Let’s just go straight up Buffy S7. Why not.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 23, 2016 at 9:16 pm #329118Gaultheria
Participant–I’m really disappointed that Aladdin used the Shears. I guess he serves as a foil to Emma but there’s still no advancement in the Savior mythos; Aladdin has nothing to offer Emma except a way out.
Or a way to activate all of the potential saviors for the finale!
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October 23, 2016 at 9:05 pm #329115nonnie
ParticipantRATING: 6.5 out of 10
EQ did not kill ARCHIE or turn him back into a cricket …. such a lost opportunity. He does make a good baby sitter… but he looks like he is scared of the baby.
EMMA and the gang need some way to tell if Archie and everyone else are really are who they are suppose to be.
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ALADDIN congers up RAIDERS of the ARC move with the monkey and the sword.
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EQ and ZELINA at the beauty shop …. I am not sure if ZELINA should listen to EQ’s advise. .
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Jafar …. I would not trust his predictions….. I also think as we learned in previous episodes / stories that predictions / proficiency are rarely accurate. 8:40
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I LOVE that EMMA sees Henry as MAGIC IN HER LIFE.
Not fond of the Jasmine and Aladdin story …. although the parallel between Emma and Aladdin was needed … did not care for how it was depicted. I guess since Aladdin is not dead he will return in the future. . . .
ZELINA did turn Archie into a cricket.
OH HOOK …. you are going to save EMMA from herself … like she saved Hook from being the death, Dark One and HADES.
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October 23, 2016 at 9:00 pm #329112RumplesGirl
KeymasterGENERAL: This episode was fine. So far I haven’t been blown away and completely stunned by any episode. They’re all fine but not without issues in writing and character. This episode was no different. I don’t think we got much information in the way of Savior mythos outside of what we already knew–Aladdin is the Savior and all Saviors are doomed to die. And frankly his reason for why he’s the Savior– “thief with a heart of gold” –might match Disney canon but it does nothing to explain Emma and her condition and the Saviors at large. Are Saviors then individualized per kingdom? Are there any common threads besides “magic.”
Rating: It’s really hard for me to rate episodes like this because smaller stuff is good but the overall storytelling isn’t great. I guess a 6/10
LIKED
–Karen David looks stunning in the blue outfit.
–I agree with Archie; running through the woods is not an effective form of therapy. Emma, sit down and actually *talk* about your problems. Here’s a hint–they go far beyond your current visions.
–Aladdin calling Jasmine out on only caring about the welfare of the Kingdom once her own family was affected. The myopic vision of the royals is an ongoing issue on this show (poor peasants)
–Aladdin did the apple thing!
–Aladdin uses a monkey statue to get the diamond; Abu for the win!
–“If the baby dies, you die!” Seems fair
–Another locator spell? Seriously, what up with those this season?
–The hourglass and breaking of Jafar’s staff are all pretty Disney!Iconic.
–“It made me a mother. It gave me a family. I have actual magic in my life. I have you.” That’s it. That’s what this show is supposed to be; the love of community that informs your identity. It’s nice when Emma actually remembers this instead of focusing on one aspect.
–“Why does magic always have to be so literal?” This line pleases me.
MIXED
–Is this Deniz Akdeniz’s natural accent? Or is he doing a (bad) Cockney accent to demonstrate that Aladdin is more poor compared to Jasmine’s posh British accent?
–While Emma is telling the room about the visions, she looks predominately at Hook as if the rest of the room doesn’t deserve her attention. Later, after getting assurance that Snow/Charming forgive her, all she cares about is Hook’s feelings while Henry seeks solace from a stranger. Things like this really and sincerely bother me because it focuses on Emma’ romantic relationship instead of her entire spectrum. They make up for it later with Emma and Henry in the cave but you have to look at the whole spectrum.
–I wish it was easier to establish when Jafar’s flashbacks are taking place. You get no hint about any of this in Wonderland which distresses me. I get it’s pre-Wonderland but that’s really broad and Jafar was always so focused on his mission–again no side adventures as a vizier in Agrabah’s capital city.
DISLIKED
–Shouting “Open Sesame!” in an over the top manner actually works to open the Cave of Wonders.
–How exactly did Jasmine figure out that it was Aladdin she needed? Has she been luring men to the Cave of Wonders to test them?
–The adorable cute bird shows Aladdin rivers of blood and a skeleton. Oooookay. And Aladdin just trusts the visions from a bird who sits on the shoulders of the kingdom’s evil tyrant because…?
–Count the MacGuffins! The Scarab, the “Diamond of the Rough,” the Sheers
–Aladdin and Jasmine’s romance is lightening fast, like all the new romances on the show these days. It works only because of Disney.
–I’m really disappointed that Aladdin used the Shears. I guess he serves as a foil to Emma but there’s still no advancement in the Savior mythos; Aladdin has nothing to offer Emma except a way out. Also he’s been in SB the entire time! Of course!
–Emma lies to Hook. And Hook lies to Emma. Such a healthy relationship.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 21, 2016 at 9:04 pm #329065In reply to: Who is Filming Now? Season 6 (PART 1)
rainbow2
Participantwhat if the way RH comes back is like the way how Emma had DO rumple on her head, like Robin starts talking with EQ or with Regina, that is something that can be used during multiple epis.
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