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In reply to: 610 Title – Wish You Were Here
I’m now starting to wonder if in the winter finale Regina will end up wishing that she had never cast the dark curse, which would allow for them to explore a reality in which Emma Swan never got to meet her parents etc it would be interesting to explore a world where a lot of what we have seen hadn’t actually happened and how things would have played out. I guess it sounds like more of a 2-hour finale type adventure in the vein of the past few seasons. I was just thinking that if the lamp and genie come into play, something like this could happen.
There would be one glaring problem with scenario. One of the laws of magic that the genies had to follow was that they couldn’t change the past. Now granted, I know Adam and Eddy aren’t known for consistency, but thought this was still important to point out.
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So…..being the opposing force to the curse makes Emma a savior? Or being the opposing force AND a child of True Love? Does there need to be a curse at all for a savior? Did Aladdin have to break a curse? Was it a dark curse or any curse in particular? Is he also a child of true love?
A lot of these questions we can’t answer yet. But like I said, I think Emma would still be magical and probably special in some way but she can’t be the Savior Rumple set out to create if there is no Dark Curse to save people from, no happy endings to restore. I mean, what is she the Savior of? Casting the dark curse is the final catalyst that locks Emma’s Saviorhood into place. Rumple needed a Savior to break the Dark Curse so he created one but if the Curse is never cast, the Savior portion of Emma never gets created. (god, this is complicated) As for Aladdin, we don’t know because this is the first season we’re exploring the very idea that there is more than one Savior. Maybe there are varying degrees of Saviorhood with Emma’s Saviorness the highest order?
Not saying they will say this, but they can always say now that Aladdin was born to be a savior like others before him and that Emma was made savior for rumple, not bc he cared about happy endings,but bc he wanted her to break SB curse, to restore their memories and allow him to get out of SB.
Like i said in previous post, all goes back to Rumple and Bae story, if he had found Bae earlier, no dark curse was needed, Snowing wouldnt have meet( think they explored that on the S3 finale)and emma wouldnt be born, so no curse and no emma savior , however a savior still existed in aladdin bc he was alive in wherever he is, again, this subject goes and goes and circle, Rumple looked for the dark curse to find Bae, he gave emma savior status, what they can do is simply show what if Rumple chosed someone else, like, Cinderella kid instead, Alexandra would have been the savior and would have come to land without magic? how would have been her life if Alexandra and not Emma was the chosen one?
One thing that has to be said is that Emma no savior, means no Hnery in all options, bc Emma was only sent to land without magic bc she was the savior like Rumple called her, if she wasnt the savior, no magic wardrobe would be made, at least for her, so no way Emma could have meet Neal and have henry.
In reply to: 610 Title – Wish You Were Here
All of this discussion is actually getting me excited about the Saviour mythology stuff! (Yes, I know, I should lower my expectations). It is interesting to think about whether Emma was always destined to be a Saviour, and Rumples involvement was purely part of the grand design, or if he literally did create her Saviour-ness. Is baby Neal a Saviour too, being born of true love? If that is the only parameter then surely any child of a True Love marriage would be a Saviour? I do like the idea that if the curse was never cast that Emma would never have taken on the mantle of Saviour and could have led a veeeeeeeery different life. Perhaps if they did go the route of showing us what would have happened if the curse was never cast, then we will get to see if Emma still has the capacity to be a Saviour even without Rumples involvement.
In reply to: 610 Title – Wish You Were Here
So…..being the opposing force to the curse makes Emma a savior? Or being the opposing force AND a child of True Love? Does there need to be a curse at all for a savior? Did Aladdin have to break a curse? Was it a dark curse or any curse in particular? Is he also a child of true love?
A lot of these questions we can’t answer yet. But like I said, I think Emma would still be magical and probably special in some way but she can’t be the Savior Rumple set out to create if there is no Dark Curse to save people from, no happy endings to restore. I mean, what is she the Savior of? Casting the dark curse is the final catalyst that locks Emma’s Saviorhood into place. Rumple needed a Savior to break the Dark Curse so he created one but if the Curse is never cast, the Savior portion of Emma never gets created. (god, this is complicated)
As for Aladdin, we don’t know because this is the first season we’re exploring the very idea that there is more than one Savior. Maybe there are varying degrees of Saviorhood with Emma’s Saviorness the highest order?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"In reply to: 610 Title – Wish You Were Here
So…..being the opposing force to the curse makes Emma a savior? Or being the opposing force AND a child of True Love? Does there need to be a curse at all for a savior? Did Aladdin have to break a curse? Was it a dark curse or any curse in particular? Is he also a child of true love?
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One small problem in that theory, Regina may not have casted the curse, but Emma would still be the savior, bc Rumple wanted that way, bc he wanted to get to this world to get to Bae
Mmm. Not exactly. Emma would still be born of true love but her saviorhood is dependent upon breaking there being a Dark Curse and restoring the happy endings; if she can’t do that (because there is no Dark Curse) then she loses the part of her Saviorhood that Rumple wanted. In order for Emma to be the savior, several things are vital: 1) Snowing must have a child and 2) Regina must cast the Dark Curse; the Dark Curse Rumple put a drop of True Love on. Emma, born without the dark curse, would still have magic and probably be special but her Saviorhood becomes something different because the entire circumstance of her Saviorhood has changed.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"In reply to: 610 Title – Wish You Were Here
One small problem in that theory, Regina may not have casted the curse, but Emma would still be the savior, bc Rumple wanted that way, bc he wanted to get to this world to get to Bae, there are 2 options, or Jafar would give Bae to rumple in the past, so no dark curse, or jafar would kill Rumple in the past, becoming dark one and there for no rumple to make Emma savior and also no Henry, bc Emma would not have come to this world not meeting Neal, in the end is always needed a savior, that is the only way they would be in SB and half of the characters still existed. Then again this is pretty much like the S3 and S4 finales, of would have happen if.
This is most likely some dream/wishing where regina dreams of life with Robin, or jafar centric since they wont have 2 arcs, so they dont need to solve everything now, so the last option of being a jafar epi makes sense, bc would set the remain epis.
In reply to: 610 Title – Wish You Were Here
If Jafar is trying to rid the world of Saviors then ensuring the dark curse is never cast and Emma ins’t made the Savior fits into his plan.
I hadn’t even thought of it from that point of view, but it does work!
In reply to: Where Is Aladdin?
Can there just not be an Emma and Hook true love’s kiss? So far, at least, we haven’t had to endure that. It does seem likely. I am still hoping that the true love’s kiss is between Rumpel and Belle this year even though i am not a fan of them.
In reply to: 610 Title – Wish You Were Here
If they incorporate a genie (which I think they have said in the past they didn’t want to do because of Robin Williams), that would open the door to so many possibilities.
And because of WL it doesn’t even have to be THE Genie; Jafar ended his story in WL being turned into a genie. If Jafar is trying to rid the world of Saviors then ensuring the dark curse is never cast and Emma ins’t made the Savior fits into his plan.
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