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In reply to: Who Is Under The Hood?
Yes I still think it’s Emma but now I’m wondering which version of Emma is under the hood–original or the split version?
But Emma knows that trying to kill a doppelganger is pointless, so why would she try that on her own?
I’m going under the assumption that we haven’t learned everything yet. There’s some sort of twist in the Savior story that will make it okay for Emma (or her doppelganger) to be under the hood. It’s a way to connect the two arcs.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"In reply to: Who Is Under The Hood?
Yes I still think it’s Emma but now I’m wondering which version of Emma is under the hood–original or the split version?
But Emma knows that trying to kill a doppelganger is pointless, so why would she try that on her own?
In reply to: Who Is Under The Hood?
So now that we know that killing the original also kills the doppelganger, do we still think it’s Emma’s worse half under the hood? That would amount to the doppelganger commiting suicide. Not that that’s out of the question, but from what we’ve seen, the split personalities seem to have a keen sense of self preservation.
Yes I still think it’s Emma but now I’m wondering which version of Emma is under the hood–original or the split version?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"In reply to: Who Is Under The Hood?
So now that we know that killing the original also kills the doppelganger, do we still think it’s Emma’s worse half under the hood? That would amount to the doppelganger commiting suicide. Not that that’s out of the question, but from what we’ve seen, the split personalities seem to have a keen sense of self preservation.
In reply to: 610 Title – Wish You Were Here
I’m now starting to wonder if in the winter finale Regina will end up wishing that she had never cast the dark curse, which would allow for them to explore a reality in which Emma Swan never got to meet her parents
That would be really interesting, actually. It also ties in nicely with their interest in savior mythology this year.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"In reply to: 610 Title – Wish You Were Here
I’m now starting to wonder if in the winter finale Regina will end up wishing that she had never cast the dark curse, which would allow for them to explore a reality in which Emma Swan never got to meet her parents etc it would be interesting to explore a world where a lot of what we have seen hadn’t actually happened and how things would have played out. I guess it sounds like more of a 2-hour finale type adventure in the vein of the past few seasons. I was just thinking that if the lamp and genie come into play, something like this could happen.
In reply to: I Have To Die
I like sierraleone’s thoughts about what is actually the original of a person… and EQ’s evilness is, as you also mention, something that grew from nurture. Young Regina, she was not like that. There is also the shows whole big thing about how “evil isn’t born its made”.. So what is an original persona? The core. Is it the animalistic sides,, acting more on instinct or passion wich are not colored by conformity to society? Or is it the more humane sides to us, like, I think most people would view their core being/original self,, as some of their more kind and loving sides. In that case, I think the idea of the Original you can mean something else entirely.
But in this case, the word “original” is just used to say that Regina, in all that she is in present day Storybrook, is The One the EQ derived from. Regina took the EQ part out of herself, in that case, that makes her the origin of that EQ we now see roaming around Storybrook.
But we are looking at this whole thing in two different ways- 1. way: What I hear you saying is this–The split would have made Two equal versions of Regina. And if it were so, they would be totally split and ones death would have no consequences for the other. Evil Queen would be able to get killed individually, as would Regina. However.. On the version we see on the show, which is the 2. way of looking at it: They are NOT totally split and EQ is still “attached” somehow to Regina, who she derived from. That’s why I say EQ is like a mirror image and in that way not equally as full a person as Regina is. I can see why you have a problem with it, if you stick to the first way of looking at it. But in accepting that the way they are seeing it and telling the story is equally valid, then I can accept that Regina is the “original” and EQ the copy. This notion is not invalid, its not a fallacy, its only different from the version you are presenting.
On the shows version, we now know that the copy cannot be killed individually. That’s why it’s the copy and there is such a thing as what we can then call the original. Which is the Regina that EQ derived from.
Both ways to tell the story can be used, there is no reason why they should not be able to tell it this way. Like I said I don’t see how their version is not valid.
May I just say, I love this conversation, its very interesting.. This is why I love this Forum 😀
But would the first version of telling the story have been more interesting or more true to reality? It’s a possibility, but I don’t know… and we haven’t seen the shows version to the end yet. The version they use on the show I think is interesting because: Well first of all, it’s a brilliant way to bring back EVIL QUEEN in full force and possibly even more deranged then ever before.. and I have missed her so.. the more scenes with her the better and it doesnt destroy Reginas process in any way. And Lana P. gets to act opposite “herself” that’s cool, really great for her. These are the first good things -check! Also I think it is still going to end with Regina reintegrating with her Evil Queen side in some way, thereby telling us what we all obviously know to be true- you cant throw away your past or any wrong doings you’ve done, so accept your inner evil demons- philosophical lesson learned -Check ! In the process of telling us this story, we might see the Charmings, Regina, Emma and Henry-family grow closer together- meaning lots of cute aaaww!… moments- check! One Last good thing in my mind would be the idea that Evil Queen is just a ‘bit’ of the whole person that Regina is, she took that bit out, with the potion, but that bit will only grow back, as Regina said in the clip when talking to Emma. But Evil Queen is still nothing but a story, a mirror image of Regina. She is Reginas past and she doesn’t need to be her future, it depends what story Regina tells the woman in the mirror. So Regina- Ask the woman in the mirror to change her ways… lol.. see what I did there! Whoop Whoop ;D
sierraleone- A blurring of who is the good and who is the bad. That I would also like.. it would be cool as always to see Lana P. portray vulnerability in the Evil Queen and the opposite in Regina and to see if they could present that differently or with new nuances from previously.
In reply to: Strange Case of Jekyll and Hyde
CON: Mary’s entire backstory. If this was the first time the show were to have women be sexually aggressive and then be punished for it or explained that this is part of villainy, I would be willing to discuss the point but Mary is not the first case, not even by a long shot. When they want women to be “bad” and given traits that are deemed “bad” and need to be corrected, it’s aggressively sexual. From the EQ to Zelena to Lacey to Emma…it’s not…pretty. And, yes before anyone says it, I know that it’s Victorian England (well, Fictional) and that it’s upholding certain mores about that society in that time, but…again, Mary isn’t the first case where sex is used to distinguish, for wont of a better trope, Madonnas and Whores. PRO: The flashbacks felt relevant and for more than just the current plot. Again, there’s a lot there and not just about the serum. Society, science vs magic, repression, emasculation….all good thought-provoking, conversation worthy elements.
Last spring I had turned over some interesting thoughts/amateur analysis of the fictional stereotype of the evil sexually aggressive woman thing and thought about starting a thread on it, but never got around to it. I have to assume it has been brought up here before 🙂 Whether it got its own thread or not, I wouldn’t know. Usually I just see people decrying the depiction without analyzing it further, from what I’ve seen (not here, I haven’t been on this board long enough to see how it is treated here).
Belle’s assertion to Rumple that the good guys would protect her, because they NEVER have until this episode.
They still haven’t. Only Hook has helped her and that seems to be because he hasn’t consulted with Emma, Snowing or Regina. At this stage Hook is the only “hero” that cares about Belle’s welfare.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixSo far season 6 is shaping up to be the best season since season 1. This was a decent episode though I do have a few nitpicks.
Hyde was great and I think it was a mistake to kill him off this early.
Hook is actually likeable this season. Emma isn’t. What’s going on? Why is this happening? It’s not a bad thing that Hook is now likeable but they needed him to be likeable 3 seasons ago. Better late than never I suppose.
What are the writers trying to do to RumBelle? They’ve not had chance for any prolonged happiness ever now they hate each other? Emilie and Robert’s acting is the only thing that can bring RumBelle back from the brink as it seems like the writers are intent on destroying the ship.
Snow’s letting the kids play with a bow and arrow. Not only is it a dangerous weapon that they are untrained in and with which somebody could get hurt, but it doesn’t even demonstrate Newton’s law “Every action has an equal and opposite reaction”. A more accurate representation would be punching someone in the face and getting punched back. Snow is still on the bird houses, that is hardly helpful to the kids’ education “I’m sorry your child can’t read or write but they can build a very nice birdhouse”. Yes, that’ll get them far in life.
Episodes are better when there is hardly any Henry in them. Henry is bringing the show down at this point, season 6 has been good so far because he’s hardly in it.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felix
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