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[bibliophile]

Also, i do not believe for a second that anything besides Rumpel dying was planned since the beginning. The end of last season with Emma in Storybrooke in her bug was supposed to be the ending, but with Neal instead of Hook.

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Exactly right!

[hjbau]

Right? Everyone else is all fairytale dress wearing. Even Emma. And there is Henry in a suit. Seems very odd to me. Henry at least lived in a fairytale land for ten years. Emma has lived in the real world most of her life and only done short visits to the Enchanted Forest. Henry looks nice, but i don’t really think it makes sense for him to be wearing that.

I wonder what the baby will be wearing. I wonder what Alice and Robyn will be wearing. I hope they are in the coronation scene. Well, not the baby, but Alice and Robyn.

[hjbau]

I, also, agree that spending any time with Tiana and Naveen should just not have been a thing. I liked her whole wanting to help people thing by being the queen, but since the curse should have broken in the third or fifth episode, that was just a waste of time at this point.

Seeing the cupcake was nice, but there is no explanation for why fake Rumpel should be able to toss people into the wish realm.

Also, i do not believe for a second that anything besides Rumpel dying was planned since the beginning. The end of last season with Emma in Storybrooke in her bug was supposed to be the ending, but with Neal instead of Hook.

I thought that fake Hook would be dead from that blow to the head too.

[hjbau]

I thought this episode was pretty bad. Regina interacting with children is ridiculous. There is nothing that she could say that should make wish Henry be okay with her murdering his grandparents. Our Emma is actually this Henry’s mother and that is just awful to think of and the implications that she just left him like she left adult Henry.

The Regina/wish Henry stuff is going to continue into the next episode and just like how it was unrealistic when Emma and Henry wanting Regina around in Season 2, it will be even more terribly unrealistic that wish Henry will give Regina a chance. This is absolutely terrible writing and just a throw back to the first major writing error on this show when they let Regina be part of the group and Henry randomly started wanting to be around her even though she neglected and abused him for ten years.

All the random characters really had no point to them. The plot was all just random events. The Henry will be his undoing thing is just them trying to fix another major error. Them mocking the timeline is terrible especially because they continue to say in interviews that it makes sense when it does not. Instead of keeping track and writing a coherent narrative, they just make fun of the viewers for not understanding.

The writers just do not understand anything to do with how people really are and their characterization is just a complete mess.

I did not like this episode and was really reminded why i am ready for the show to be over.

[MatthewPaul]

Wish Pinocchio? One who never went through the wardrobe because the Curse was never cast.

But we saw Wish Pinocchio back in Season 6, all grown up and played by Eion Bailey. He helped Emma and Regina get back to Storybrooke. So he should still be Eion Bailey now, unless there’s another explanation due to Eion Bailey’s availability?

[bibliophile]

Agreed. The worst decision Once ever made was killing Baelfire. It ruined Rumple, Emma, and Henry’s stories/storylines and for what? Hook? Hook was a great villain and I’m sure they could’ve found stories for him even after Emma chose Neal. Better stories one hopes.

You know what the writers are right this show is ALL about hope. As in we always hope for the best and they don’t give it too us!

[bibliophile]

Rumple’s story has been the saddest one in Once IMO. People say Regina has lost everything, but she’s had Henry and far more friends than she probably deserved even before she actually started to change her ways.

Rumple has literally lost everyone who ever cared about him (certainly Henry, Emma and The Charmings have never cared about him) and his only hope now is to die and maybe be reunited with Baelfire and Belle in the Once afterlife. It’s so sad!

Where is Gideon anyway? I didn’t like his storyline at all, but you’d think he deserves at the very least a mention. Maybe he’s died offscreen and will show up in the big Stiltskin afterlife reunion scene?

[RumplesGirl]

The writers have always had a problem with Henry being Rumple’s grandson and having two sets of them just ups the awkwardness

Yeah this is supremely complicated and weird. The writers are writing Wish Rumple as though he is full on crazy because he never got Belle back and never got Nealfire back which sure, that would make Rumple lose his mind and give into the darkness fully. The issue is that Nealfire somehow existed in the Wish Realm 18 years ago (somehow!) and lived long enough to meet Emma and create Wish Henry (and we have to assume it wasn’t just a wam-bam-thank you ma’am because when we were first introduced to the Wish Realm, they spoke of Neal in loving terms).

My limited understanding of the Wish Realm timeline is something like this

1) Rumple takes the dagger for a variety of reasons and Bae is a little boy.

2) Bae vanishes down a portal because of Rumple’s refusal to give up the Dagger; Wish Rumple swears he’ll find a way to get back to Bae and begins to come up with his Curse plan.

3) Lots of time passes and somehow the family defeats the Wish Evil Queen and Emma is never sent through the Wardrobe. Rumple is also captured and locked up in the castle jail.

4) Insert massive confusion here because somehow Nealfire stayed young enough to eventually come back to the Wish Realm, grow up a bit, meet Emma, presumably fall in love and conceive Henry. But…Wish Rumple and Neal never interacted?

5) Neal dies somehow

(side note: all of this is still more complicated because of what I wrote a response above…none of it actually happened until the Wish Realm was poofed into existence and even then the characters only have memories of these events. They could not actually have transpired)

I know it will come to no surprise to anyone but when all is said and done in a week, I’ll go down swearing that the single biggest mistake on this show was killing Neal. I don’t even care about the ‘ship aspect of it all (well, okay, maybe a little) but at every turn his lack of presence complicated the show beyond what was necessary because the writers keep having to deal with him and his existence in their universe as Henry’s father and Rumple’s son somehow. Their go-to solution is to straight up ignore Neal except when they realize they can’t do that (ie: Wish Henry needs a father) so they casually drop his name into the narrative and hope that’s enough except it never it because it never makes sense and leads to a ton more questions.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[bibliophile]

Stahlop wrote:

Still not clear on how if Gold loses his darkness that Wish Realm Rumple will too. Did he lose it when Emma became the Dark One?

Probably not for one reason: the Wish Realm didn’t exist then. The WR might have history and backstory now but it did not pop into existence until Emma made her wish after her Dark Swan arc. So while the Wish characters have memories of experiences that make them real, any sort of event outside the WR that would have repercussions in the Wish Realm did not actually happen. (and least this is what I’m telling myself)

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So maybe there has only ever been one Dark One in all the realms until Wish Realm somehow copied Rumple albeit giving him a different and somehow even sadder story? Maybe one of the stupid rules to stupid wish realm is that if the ‘real’ character dies then so does the wish version? So while Wish Charmings being murdered has zero affect on the real ones, if the real say Hook dies, then Nooky would be a goner too? Or if our Rumple gives up his power, then Wumple would loss his too.

Gee where have we heard that before? It’s Jekyl and Hyde all over again. Oh well whatever. At this point all I expect (And I do expect it!) is emotional closure. Logical closure and a coherent story really is just too much to hope for.

[RumplesGirl]

Still not clear on how if Gold loses his darkness that Wish Realm Rumple will too.  Did he lose it when Emma became the Dark One?

Probably not for one reason: the Wish Realm didn’t exist then. The WR might have history and backstory now but it did not pop into existence until Emma made her wish after her Dark Swan arc. So while the Wish characters have memories of experiences that make them real, any sort of event outside the WR that would have repercussions in the Wish Realm did not actually happen.

(and least this is what I’m telling myself)

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"